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Old 07-29-2021, 11:53 AM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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And now they are recommending people get a booster shot, especially if the first shot was Johnson & Johnson.
It isn't official, and I don't really know all that much about the J&J, but I am watching some stuff coming out of Israel and Briton that tells me, the longer the interval between the first and second shots for Phizer and Moderna, the longer the immunity lasts. Especially in older people.

At any rate, I wouldn't worry until you hit the 6 month mark, at least, from your second shot.
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Old 07-29-2021, 02:25 PM
 
Location: northern Alabama
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Sometimes I feel almost like an outcast. I have been repeatedly asked which shot I got and if I am going to get the booster. I caught covid and, as of my last doctor visit in July, I still have antibodies. When I tell people this, I get comments such as 'So, when are you going to get your shots'. Truth be told, I prefer natural immunity. And now, we have the Columbian variant.

From Florida, new cases:
Delta 49%
Brazilian 26%
Colombian 10%

I had not heard of the Brazilian variant until I read the story on the Colombian. I can't help but wonder just how many mutations we will have.
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Old 07-29-2021, 05:43 PM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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Sometimes I feel almost like an outcast. I have been repeatedly asked which shot I got and if I am going to get the booster. I caught covid and, as of my last doctor visit in July, I still have antibodies. When I tell people this, I get comments such as 'So, when are you going to get your shots'. Truth be told, I prefer natural immunity. And now, we have the Columbian variant.

From Florida, new cases:
Delta 49%
Brazilian 26%
Colombian 10%

I had not heard of the Brazilian variant until I read the story on the Colombian. I can't help but wonder just how many mutations we will have.
Oh, I had forgotten you had recovered from the virus. The protection given from having recovered from the virus varies from the equivalent of one of the Phizer shots (for a very mild case) to a sever case that you required two weeks to be back up and doing your normal daily routines, minus any sort of aerobic exercises, witch would give similar protection to having both of the Phizer shots. More or less. This assumes you didn't get an infusion of antibodies, since if you did, your body wouldn't have seen as much need to make you immune.

How long that protection is good for is a bit of a guess, but usually a few months is a pretty safe bet.
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Old 08-01-2021, 03:27 PM
 
Location: northern Alabama
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My covid experience was of short duration, but fierce. I had nasty side effects, kept smelling things burning, vision problems and no energy. It took several months for me to get back to my usual routine.

I worry that the government and other institutions will overreact. I fear that another shutdown will shatter our economy. My local stores still are not back to normal.

I worry that politicians will take this opportunity to take away more of our freedoms. A pack of angry/panicked people will look for someone to blame. And we have politicians who will be happy to help determine who should be blamed.

I fear democracy - to me it's just mob rule. I don't know who said this, but I agree 'Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch'.
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Old 08-05-2021, 05:57 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Sometimes I feel almost like an outcast. I have been repeatedly asked which shot I got and if I am going to get the booster. I caught covid and, as of my last doctor visit in July, I still have antibodies. When I tell people this, I get comments such as 'So, when are you going to get your shots'. Truth be told, I prefer natural immunity. And now, we have the Columbian variant.

From Florida, new cases:
Delta 49%
Brazilian 26%
Colombian 10%

I had not heard of the Brazilian variant until I read the story on the Colombian. I can't help but wonder just how many mutations we will have.

Why this country ignores natural immunity is baffling to me. Natural antibodies last at least 8 months and have been shown to be robust at 9 months. Compare that to a "vaccine" that loses whatever efficacy it has at between 4-6 months smh

Also, thank you to whomever bumped this post. I and others received a lot of flack for what we said, only to later be confirmed after the CDC dragged their feet.
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Old 08-05-2021, 05:59 AM
 
Location: NYC
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My covid experience was of short duration, but fierce. I had nasty side effects, kept smelling things burning, vision problems and no energy. It took several months for me to get back to my usual routine.

I worry that the government and other institutions will overreact. I fear that another shutdown will shatter our economy. My local stores still are not back to normal.

I worry that politicians will take this opportunity to take away more of our freedoms. A pack of angry/panicked people will look for someone to blame. And we have politicians who will be happy to help determine who should be blamed.

I fear democracy - to me it's just mob rule. I don't know who said this, but I agree 'Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch'.

I'm in NYC. DeBlasio has already done it and small business owners are trying to fight his vaccinated-only indoor mandate.
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Old 08-05-2021, 11:22 AM
 
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My covid experience was of short duration, but fierce. I had nasty side effects, kept smelling things burning, vision problems and no energy. It took several months for me to get back to my usual routine.

I worry that the government and other institutions will overreact. I fear that another shutdown will shatter our economy. My local stores still are not back to normal.

I worry that politicians will take this opportunity to take away more of our freedoms. A pack of angry/panicked people will look for someone to blame. And we have politicians who will be happy to help determine who should be blamed.

I fear democracy - to me it's just mob rule. I don't know who said this, but I agree 'Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch'.
There are still plenty of places where there is no democracy. I fear them a heck of a lot more. BTW, we do not have a full democracy. We have a republic with a managed economy where most of the shots are called by the large corporations and those with the money to make their wants known. Mob rule is where a prevailing majority engage in populism to the detriment of anyone not on their bandwagon.
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Old 08-05-2021, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Where the mountains touch the sky
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Mob rule is where a prevailing majority engage in populism to the detriment of anyone not on their bandwagon.
Sounds an awful lot like what we have running the country right now.
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Old 08-05-2021, 09:35 PM
 
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Why this country ignores natural immunity is baffling to me. Natural antibodies last at least 8 months and have been shown to be robust at 9 months. Compare that to a "vaccine" that loses whatever efficacy it has at between 4-6 months smh

Also, thank you to whomever bumped this post. I and others received a lot of flack for what we said, only to later be confirmed after the CDC dragged their feet.

I’m going on 18 months of natural immunity.
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Old 08-06-2021, 08:48 AM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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I fear democracy - to me it's just mob rule. I don't know who said this, but I agree 'Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch'.
Even our founding fathers knew not to trust democracy: that it was mob rule. That is why they divided the powers and put them under a Constitution.

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There are still plenty of places where there is no democracy. I fear them a heck of a lot more. BTW, we do not have a full democracy. We have a republic with a managed economy where most of the shots are called by the large corporations and those with the money to make their wants known. Mob rule is where a prevailing majority engage in populism to the detriment of anyone not on their bandwagon.
Democracy or Republic makes no difference. It was the Constitution and Fear of the Lord that made the US great. Today, a large portion of the US have strayed from the Constitution, and forgotten the Lord.

Liberty is not the natural state of man. It is only Christianity that makes liberty possible. (2 Cor 3:17) Man's natural inclination is to control others and to be controlled by others. It has been said already, by someone more eloquent than myself:

https://ponderingprinciples.com/2018...r-the-bayonet/
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Robert Winthrop (1809-1894), who served as speaker of the House of Representatives and also as a senator, gave an address to the Massachusetts Bible Society in 1849. What he said in that address is a fitting conclusion to the thoughts I want to share today:
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All societies of men must be governed in some way or other. The less they may have of stringent State Government, the more they have of individual self-government. The less they rely on public law or physical force, the more they rely on private moral restraint.

Men, in a word, must necessarily be controlled, either by a power within them, or by a power without [outside] them; either by the Word of God or by the strong arm of man; either by the Bible or the bayonet.
The emperor of Bayblon once said:
God raises up empires and gives them to the worst of men.

Our nation has been given over to an oligarchy of Billionaires, without conscience.
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