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Maybe at least study some of the real world collapse models of the Soviet Union and Argentina so you do not sound so ignut of the topic?
Sometimes I wonder about you people.... Please read what I say, I use the words I use for particular reasons. Governments collapse all the time, where as civilizations die slowly or are invaded by other civilizations. A government and civilization are not the same thing.
Czar ruled Russia, the USSR and today's Russian Federation all represent different periods of the same civilization.
People on this thread are talking about the systematic collapse of society and there are few if any historic examples of this sort of thing.
All of this is rather silly, even if society collapsed new factions would form immediately. The gardening club would likely be stripped of their belongings and made sheep or be killed. There are plenty examples of that in human history!
Sometimes I wonder about you people.... Please read what I say, I use the words I use for particular reasons. Governments collapse all the time, where as civilizations die slowly or are invaded by other civilizations. A government and civilization are not the same thing.
Czar ruled Russia, the USSR and today's Russian Federation all represent different periods of the same civilization.
People on this thread are talking about the systematic collapse of society and there are few if any historic examples of this sort of thing.
All of this is rather silly, even if society collapsed new factions would form immediately. The gardening club would likely be stripped of their belongings and made sheep or be killed. There are plenty examples of that in human history!
Okay.
Since you clearly do not understand the topic and are trying to bs your way though, here is a backgrounder for what the rest of the folks are discussing . . .
just remember, that no matter how well armed you are, there is someone else better armed than you.
if surviving TSHTF is your goal, then staying out of sight and mind is always the best option, and there fore gearing up for that eventuality.
I agree with this. If nobody notices you, you're not a target. If you don't have a neon fortress with something inside that others want, you're not worth bothering with.
I agree. But, they are not renewable and hypothetically should be saved for serious situations. I think archery skills would be very handy. Silent and deadly. Arrows can be reused and constructed when needed. With practice, longbows or crossbows can be made from the natural world. It seems reasonable that for hunting and fishing, one would not want to waste all of one's bullets. Arrows work just fine for that. Plus they don't draw a lot of attention (like rifle blasts).
I agree. But, they are not renewable and hypothetically should be saved for serious situations. I think archery skills would be very handy. Silent and deadly. Arrows can be reused and constructed when needed. With practice, longbows or crossbows can be made from the natural world. It seems reasonable that for hunting and fishing, one would not want to waste all of one's bullets. Arrows work just fine for that. Plus they don't draw a lot of attention (like rifle blasts).
Trapping is an even better method for getting game without using ammo. Of course it's currently illegal to trap big game in most places but pits, deadfalls, foot snares, and of course longspring bear traps, will all assist in getting meat in the event of a collapse.
Since you clearly do not understand the topic and are trying to bs your way though, here is a backgrounder for what the rest of the folks are discussing . . .
Oh geez you are a broken record. If you don't want to address what I stated, don't address it. But don't link me to some banal opinion piece on energy that was not mentioned anywhere in this thread and pretend as if has anything to do with "what the rest of the folks are discussing".
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