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Old 12-15-2018, 07:38 PM
 
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Good to hear this and I think in terms of housing, you will find what you are looking for.

Also, this is good considering that you didn’t even check out Westcott/the University(Hill) area of the city, which I feel would be another viable option. Same for Tipperary Hill.

As I may have mentioned earlier in the thread, but I also wouldn’t count out the western suburbs for future consideration too.
Just for reference in terms of the last statement, school districts such as West Genesee(primarily in Camillus), Westhill and Marcellus are a few in that area that come to mind.
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Old 12-17-2018, 06:28 AM
 
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Just for reference in terms of the last statement, school districts such as West Genesee(primarily in Camillus), Westhill and Marcellus are a few in that area that come to mind.
Some more information on each of these school districts for those looking at the general area...

West Genesee: https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000041152
West Genesee Central School District - USA.com™
https://cnyrealtor.com/index.php?sub...West%20Genesee)

Westhill: https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000041013
Westhill Central School District - USA.com™
https://cnyrealtor.com/index.php?sub...me.eq.Westhill)

Marcellus: https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000040953
Marcellus Central School District - USA.com™
https://cnyrealtor.com/index.php?sub...e.eq.Marcellus)

Also, another Downtown district that some people may forget about or underestimate in terms of nightlife: Hanover Square | Downtown Syracuse | Restaurants, Bars, and More
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0504...7i13312!8i6656



Spots/restaurants in Hawley-Green that are pretty popular: https://www.lacistapasbar.com/
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0533...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.facebook.com/lapatriacafe/ (new)
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0536...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.facebook.com/2018.babylon/
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0522...6!9m2!1b1!2i37

and a couple of other businesses there that are next to each other: http://hairanoia.net/
https://www.facebook.com/ThanosImportMarket/
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0534...6!9m2!1b1!2i37

A small grocery store in the neighborhood: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0534...6!9m2!1b1!2i37
https://www.facebook.com/dominicksmarketsyracuse/
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0543...6!9m2!1b1!2i37

A park across the street: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0543...6!9m2!1b1!2i37

Neighborhoods organizations: NEHDA
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0534...6!9m2!1b1!2i37

https://www.syracuseculturalworkers.com/
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0534...6!9m2!1b1!2i37
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Old 12-17-2018, 07:09 AM
 
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Some more information on each of these school districts for those looking at the general area...

West Genesee: https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000041152
West Genesee Central School District - USA.comâ„¢
https://cnyrealtor.com/index.php?sub...West%20Genesee)

Westhill: https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000041013
Westhill Central School District - USA.comâ„¢
https://cnyrealtor.com/index.php?sub...me.eq.Westhill)

Marcellus: https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000040953
Marcellus Central School District - USA.comâ„¢
https://cnyrealtor.com/index.php?sub...e.eq.Marcellus)

Also, another Downtown district that some people may forget about or underestimate in terms of nightlife: Hanover Square | Downtown Syracuse | Restaurants, Bars, and More
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0504...7i13312!8i6656



Spots/restaurants in Hawley-Green that are pretty popular: https://www.lacistapasbar.com/
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0533...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.facebook.com/lapatriacafe/ (new)
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0536...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.facebook.com/2018.babylon/
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0522...6!9m2!1b1!2i37

and a couple of other businesses there that are next to each other: http://hairanoia.net/
https://www.facebook.com/ThanosImportMarket/
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0534...6!9m2!1b1!2i37

A small grocery store in the neighborhood: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0534...6!9m2!1b1!2i37
https://www.facebook.com/dominicksmarketsyracuse/
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0543...6!9m2!1b1!2i37

A park across the street: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0543...6!9m2!1b1!2i37

Neighborhood organizations: NEHDA
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0534...6!9m2!1b1!2i37

https://www.syracuseculturalworkers.com/
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0534...6!9m2!1b1!2i37
More restaurants in/near the Hawley-Green area: https://www.attiliosonjames.com
In this building: https://www.apartmentfinder.com/New-...wer-Apartments
https://www.walkscore.com/score/rege...wer-syracuse-2

http://spoonandchopsticks.net
In this building across the street from the previously mentioned building: https://greenlandps.com/availability...ate=propertyUA
https://www.emporis.com/buildings/13...yracuse-ny-usa

489 James St. - Original Italian Pizza

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Old 12-17-2018, 07:14 AM
 
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Good to hear this and I think in terms of housing, you will find what you are looking for.

Also, this is good considering that you didn’t even check out Westcott/the University(Hill) area of the city, which I feel would be another viable option. Same for Tipperary Hill.

As I may have mentioned earlier in the thread, but I also wouldn’t count out the western suburbs for future consideration too.
My office would be right off of Armory Square and the way I look at it, this may be the only time in my life (before retirement, at least) where I can afford to live a more urban lifestyle without worrying about kids. That's why I'm really focusing on the two areas I mentioned.

But I spent most of the weekend recovering from the trip largely in part to climbing all over the Hill and around Westcott. My thighs were not prepared! :P

We actually drove out to a house just south of Westcott on Maryland Street that I've had my eye on since July when this whole process started. It's part of SU's mortgage program (certain neighborhoods where employees can buy sans PMI) and looked delightful from photos of the inside, so I was curious as to why it had sat on the market for 6 months. It was up a big hill and had a tiny backyard backing to a cliff/someone else's backyard, but seemed fine otherwise. Not sure what to make of the housing inventory not moving.

On the other hand, it looks like SU in particular is really growing between a hiring scheme to bring in 100+ new faculty members and then the support staff needed to grow those departments, so in a small way that could help with housing values and movement.

Any thoughts on why houses might not move? Is that the market in Syracuse or indicative of broader issues with the house? I don't want to buy now, but it definitely gives me a little bit of pause about buying (or at least, buying a single family versus a duplex where I could start developing some investment properties).
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Old 12-17-2018, 07:39 AM
 
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My office would be right off of Armory Square and the way I look at it, this may be the only time in my life (before retirement, at least) where I can afford to live a more urban lifestyle without worrying about kids. That's why I'm really focusing on the two areas I mentioned.

But I spent most of the weekend recovering from the trip largely in part to climbing all over the Hill and around Westcott. My thighs were not prepared! :P

We actually drove out to a house just south of Westcott on Maryland Street that I've had my eye on since July when this whole process started. It's part of SU's mortgage program (certain neighborhoods where employees can buy sans PMI) and looked delightful from photos of the inside, so I was curious as to why it had sat on the market for 6 months. It was up a big hill and had a tiny backyard backing to a cliff/someone else's backyard, but seemed fine otherwise. Not sure what to make of the housing inventory not moving.

On the other hand, it looks like SU in particular is really growing between a hiring scheme to bring in 100+ new faculty members and then the support staff needed to grow those departments, so in a small way that could help with housing values and movement.

Any thoughts on why houses might not move? Is that the market in Syracuse or indicative of broader issues with the house? I don't want to buy now, but it definitely gives me a little bit of pause about buying (or at least, buying a single family versus a duplex where I could start developing some investment properties).
I think a part of it is due to off campus rentals in the East neighborhood(as SU folks call it) and in turn, may be a turnoff to some. However, there are some nice homes in the University area and SEUNA is a neighborhood group that has been trying to increase more home ownership in the area, along with the SU Guaranteed Mortgage Program.

I also think that is why there has been so many student marketed apartments built nearby to get students out of that area and into those apartments. In turn, the area could increase its home ownership.

There are also talks of getting rid of South Campus housing and get students to move onto/near the main campus. So, there are plenty of plans in the works that will change the way the University Area looks in the future.

Also, I’d say as a rule if thumb for those that want to buy in that area, to look east of Westcott and south of Euclid. I say that due to there being more homeowners, while still being close to the Westcott Business District, parks(especially Barry Park) and the campus(es).

Some related info in regards to area housing: Westcott (SEUNA website has some good info)
Berkeley Park

Oh, another thing, I believe that Le Moyne College nearby also has a housing program for its area of the East Side as well.
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Old 12-17-2018, 01:27 PM
 
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My office would be right off of Armory Square and the way I look at it, this may be the only time in my life (before retirement, at least) where I can afford to live a more urban lifestyle without worrying about kids. That's why I'm really focusing on the two areas I mentioned.

But I spent most of the weekend recovering from the trip largely in part to climbing all over the Hill and around Westcott. My thighs were not prepared! :P

We actually drove out to a house just south of Westcott on Maryland Street that I've had my eye on since July when this whole process started. It's part of SU's mortgage program (certain neighborhoods where employees can buy sans PMI) and looked delightful from photos of the inside, so I was curious as to why it had sat on the market for 6 months. It was up a big hill and had a tiny backyard backing to a cliff/someone else's backyard, but seemed fine otherwise. Not sure what to make of the housing inventory not moving.

On the other hand, it looks like SU in particular is really growing between a hiring scheme to bring in 100+ new faculty members and then the support staff needed to grow those departments, so in a small way that could help with housing values and movement.

Any thoughts on why houses might not move? Is that the market in Syracuse or indicative of broader issues with the house? I don't want to buy now, but it definitely gives me a little bit of pause about buying (or at least, buying a single family versus a duplex where I could start developing some investment properties).
A way to avoid a lot of the walking: Connective Corridor
Syracuse University

Also, some Tipperary Hill information: https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer...899999999&z=16 (needs a little bit of updating, but give a general idea of the neighborhood's size)
Tipp Hill - City Blocks: Syracuse
https://www.facebook.com/TipperaryHi...odAssociation/
Apartments there: https://www.suttoncos.com/property/st-patricks-lofts/
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Old 01-05-2019, 02:17 PM
 
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A way to avoid a lot of the walking: Connective Corridor
Syracuse University

Also, some Tipperary Hill information: https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer...899999999&z=16 (needs a little bit of updating, but give a general idea of the neighborhood's size)
Tipp Hill - City Blocks: Syracuse
https://www.facebook.com/TipperaryHi...odAssociation/
Apartments there: https://www.suttoncos.com/property/st-patricks-lofts/
Another rental option in that area that I forgot about(was formerly a church): The Geddes – Luxury Apartments in Syracuse, NY

More rental information: Skylight Rental Properties - Syracuse, NY

https://www.apartments.com/nettleton...se-ny/7ncj2ez/

Home - Syracuse Premier Apartments

Villages...
Apartments for Rent - 401 First Street, Liverpool NY - JGB Properties, LLC
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1022...2!8i6656?hl=en

Syracuse Realty Group - Residential Property Listings and Services
https://www.google.com/maps/place/20...!4d-76.1296202

https://www.apartments.com/the-lofts...us-ny/yzhr7mt/
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0389...7i13312!8i6656 "(before conversion)



In the city, but with a happy medium in between Downtown and the Eastwood neighborhood in the "old money" Sedgwick neighborhood near James Street(has good bus coverage): Dewitt Highland Townhouse Apartments in Syracuse
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0627...6!9m2!1b1!2i38
SEDGWICK FARM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION

https://www.eastwoodneighbor.com/
Businesses | Walkable Eastwood (needs updating, but still pretty relevant)
A couple of areas in that neighborhood with businesses, James Street: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0684...6!9m2!1b1!2i38
Burnet Avenue: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0550...6!9m2!1b1!2i38

https://www.centro.org/docs/default-...rsn=77884c9d_6
https://www.centro.org/docs/default-...sn=6f884c9d_14
For those that work at SU: http://parking.syr.edu/wp-content/up...ie-weekday.pdf

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Old 01-05-2019, 07:21 PM
 
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Another source for searching for rentals, especially in the initial area mentioned: https://www.orangehousing.com
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Old 01-07-2019, 07:20 AM
 
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Another city neighborhood that has some walk ability and has a high home owner rate that is a "sleeper" in that regard: Court-Woodlawn Task Force (again, needs some updating, but still has generally relevant information)
Court-Woodlawn Task Force: Click on Map of our Court-Woodlawn area

Court-Woodlawn Task Force: Click Walkable Court Woodlawn - Butternut Circle
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0721...6!9m2!1b1!2i37 (southern border of neighborhood)

A couple of residential street views: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0758...6!9m2!1b1!2i37

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0776...6!9m2!1b1!2i37

Some more relatively recent info of the area: Census Tract 000300 in Onondaga County, New York
Census Tract 000400 in Onondaga County, New York
Census Block Group 000200-1 in Onondaga County, New York
Basically a working to solidly middle class area.

A listing in the neighborhood: https://cnyrealtor.com/index.php?src...SC&row=69&pos=
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Old 01-07-2019, 02:42 PM
 
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Another city neighborhood that has some walk ability and has a high home owner rate that is a "sleeper" in that regard: Court-Woodlawn Task Force (again, needs some updating, but still has generally relevant information)
Court-Woodlawn Task Force: Click on Map of our Court-Woodlawn area

Court-Woodlawn Task Force: Click Walkable Court Woodlawn - Butternut Circle
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0721...6!9m2!1b1!2i37 (southern border of neighborhood)

A couple of residential street views: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0758...6!9m2!1b1!2i37

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0776...6!9m2!1b1!2i37

Some more relatively recent info of the area: Census Tract 000300 in Onondaga County, New York
Census Tract 000400 in Onondaga County, New York
Census Block Group 000200-1 in Onondaga County, New York
Basically a working to solidly middle class area.

A listing in the neighborhood: https://cnyrealtor.com/index.php?src...SC&row=69&pos=
What is also pretty nice about this area is that it is close enough to some other shopping nearby and in the northern suburbs, but it is also close to these places nearby on the same side of town as well: NBT Bank Stadium » Onondaga County Parks
CNYRMA
https://www.destinyusa.com/

In terms of schools, if the public options(Webster or LeMoyne Elem., Grant Middle and Henninger or ITC for a magnet option) don't do it for you or you don't go the charter route, many go with these nearby Catholic options: Blessed Sacrament School | Syracuse, NY
https://www.stmargaretschoolny.org/
For Jr./Sr. High: Welcome to Bishop Grimes

Employers nearby: Crouse-Hinds - Leading provider of electrical and instrumentation products for harsh, hazardous and explosionproof environments
New York | Southern Glazers Wine & Spirits
https://www.bitzer.de/us/us/
https://mitten-manufacturing.com/
River Valley :: Home
Innovation is a family tradition - Feldmeier Equipment, Inc.
among others...

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