central pasco development around 54 (Tampa, Citrus Park: 2014, condo, chapel)

[PhotoProIP]

Originally Posted by Fl1150

Well evidently you haven't been to Miami and to really say nowhere in Florida like really.

I lived in Miami/Coral Gables my whole life before moving to Tampa, and will hardly consider Miami "middle of nowhere"!!! YAOOYM!

[PhotoProIP]

Originally Posted by retiredcop111

Tampa premium outlets are convenience stores?

They are everywhere. There is nothing special about them. There are in Orlando, Ellenton towards Sarasota... Just boring stores, no character, overpriced when considering the quality. I am not a fan. I don't live to shop.

[Tim Tim Tim]

Originally Posted by PhotoProIP

They are everywhere. There is nothing special about them. There are in Orlando, Ellenton towards Sarasota... Just boring stores, no character, overpriced when considering the quality. I am not a fan. I don't live to shop.

so since you dont like them, that makes them convenience stores?

I dont like them either but i wouldn't call it a convenience store, I also wouldn't call the area "the middle of nowhere".

[PhotoProIP]

Originally Posted by Tim Tim Tim

so since you dont like them, that makes them convenience stores?

I dont like them either but i wouldn't call it a convenience store, I also wouldn't call the area "the middle of nowhere".

I'm not understanding what the problem is with calling them that? They are "conveniently" located where a LOT of people live.

It is middle of nowhere when you look at what's around! Nothing. Just open land everywhere you look & cows.

[jacktheknife]

They are building a TON of houses in Pasco and SOuthEast Hillsborough right now...

I have no idea where any of these people will be working, and I feel another bubble coming!

[Tim Tim Tim]

well, I live in land o lakes and work in riverview. takes about 35 minutes to commute up 54 and down i75 to get there.

not sure where everyone else works but this commute is less than what I have had in years

[jacktheknife]

Originally Posted by Tim Tim Tim

well, I live in land o lakes and work in riverview. takes about 35 minutes to commute up 54 and down i75 to get there.

not sure where everyone else works but this commute is less than what I have had in years

That's not what I am getting at...

They are building tens of thousands of units right now. There is no big influx in jobs. In fact, the job market here is, and has been pretty mediocre, even in the run up to the last bubble. I have lived here my entire life and I am in my late 30's.

So they are building thousands of homes, and I might add too, apartment complexes... so in theory, people will be moving from existing housing to these new homes / apartments, right?

So that leaves two things, empty homes or apartments SOMEWHERE, or these are spec houses and there's fixing to be a huge bubble.

Remember all the empty units in S.E. Hillsborough in 2008-2011? Half finished subdivisions, ghost towns

I just do not see the impetus for all this growth... especially in Pasco, drive up and down US 19 and seeing empty strip malls and other death and destruction

[retiredcop111]

Originally Posted by jacktheknife

That's not what I am getting at...

They are building tens of thousands of units right now. There is no big influx in jobs. In fact, the job market here is, and has been pretty mediocre, even in the run up to the last bubble. I have lived here my entire life and I am in my late 30's.

So they are building thousands of homes, and I might add too, apartment complexes... so in theory, people will be moving from existing housing to these new homes / apartments, right?

So that leaves two things, empty homes or apartments SOMEWHERE, or these are spec houses and there's fixing to be a huge bubble.

Remember all the empty units in S.E. Hillsborough in 2008-2011? Half finished subdivisions, ghost towns

I just do not see the impetus for all this growth... especially in Pasco, drive up and down US 19 and seeing empty strip malls and other death and destruction

100% agree with your above statement. Tampa is very desirable to live now. 10 years from now? Who knows!

[GulfCoastGuy]

Originally Posted by jacktheknife

That's not what I am getting at...

They are building tens of thousands of units right now. There is no big influx in jobs. In fact, the job market here is, and has been pretty mediocre, even in the run up to the last bubble.

As a person who moved here a month ago and has been home shopping every spare moment, I can vouch that the real estate market is nuts. Absolutely insane in fact. This has to be bubble 2.0 in the works..

Originally Posted by jacktheknife

So that leaves two things, empty homes or apartments SOMEWHERE, or these are spec houses and there's fixing to be a huge bubble.

Remember all the empty units in S.E. Hillsborough in 2008-2011? Half finished subdivisions, ghost towns

I just do not see the impetus for all this growth... especially in Pasco, drive up and down US 19 and seeing empty strip malls and other death and destruction

I don't get it either. Gulf View Mall and the Embassy Shopping Center right across the street both look very depressed. Go into that mall and tell me it's not on the verge of going under. Stores have very limited merchandise and there are very few people to be seen in the mall.

There's not much along the 54 corridor for convenient shopping either. Just a Target as far as I can see. No Best Buy, JCP Penny, Home Depot, etc.

The new housing developments on the 54 are high-density nightmares. The Lennars of the world are clear cutting every last tree in Trinity and packing cookie-cutter style houses as close as humanly possible. Lennar has absolutely killed the area next to the uber expensive Champion's Club. I expect traffic will be insane once Lennar is though.

[Tim Tim Tim]

Originally Posted by jacktheknife

That's not what I am getting at...

They are building tens of thousands of units right now. There is no big influx in jobs. In fact, the job market here is, and has been pretty mediocre, even in the run up to the last bubble. I have lived here my entire life and I am in my late 30's.

So they are building thousands of homes, and I might add too, apartment complexes... so in theory, people will be moving from existing housing to these new homes / apartments, right?

So that leaves two things, empty homes or apartments SOMEWHERE, or these are spec houses and there's fixing to be a huge bubble.

Remember all the empty units in S.E. Hillsborough in 2008-2011? Half finished subdivisions, ghost towns

I just do not see the impetus for all this growth... especially in Pasco, drive up and down US 19 and seeing empty strip malls and other death and destruction

I missed your point, I do agree with you though. I know some business are coming to the area and growing but I always said the same thing, where the heck do all of these people work.. the other one is how do so many people have so much money (assuming they have a lot of money for all of the 350K+ houses being sold)