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Old 03-30-2011, 08:46 AM
 
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You missed what I was saying. Teacher families are making $200,000 a year here while the avg family is making about $40,000. Thus my posts about things being tilted in the opposite direction from your experience. Only teachers here can afford to buy the new homes along with the few doctors and lawyers.
How can teachers make $200,000 a year if their salaries are in the $40000's after two decades of experience?
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Old 03-30-2011, 08:47 AM
 
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I'm not stupid. I know how taxes and benefits work. My husband has a non-public job and I've had jobs outside of education.

Still, the figures posted do not reflect the true picture of what teacher's are being paid.
I don't think you are stupid Milleka.

It seemed you kept harping on the fact you take home less than the 35k salary but I don't see the significance of that since everyone takes home less than their gross salary. Also, how do you know that site Teacher Portal includes administrator's pay? I don't see where it says it is or isn't, are you just assuming?

http://images.teacherportal.com/salary-graph-1.jpg (broken link)
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Old 03-30-2011, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Owasso, OK
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You missed what I was saying. Teacher families are making $200,000 a year here while the avg family is making about $40,000. Thus my posts about things being tilted in the opposite direction from your experience. Only teachers here can afford to buy the new homes along with the few doctors and lawyers.
And, you've missed what I'm saying. I've NEVER heard of a teacher's family making that amount of money. Where do you live again? If it were true, it would be the mecca for all teachers, I can tell ya that.
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Old 03-30-2011, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Owasso, OK
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How can teachers make $200,000 a year if their salaries are in the $40000's after two decades of experience?
That's what I want to know.
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Old 03-30-2011, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Owasso, OK
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I don't think you are stupid Milleka.

It seemed you kept harping on the fact you take home less than the 35k salary but I don't see the significance of that since everyone takes home less than their gross salary. Also, how do you know that site Teacher Portal includes administrator's pay? I don't see where it says it is or isn't, are you just assuming?
What is this chart? It doesn't even make sense. No teachers, that I know of, get paid hourly.

Look at the Oklahoma Department of Education website. It clearly shows what teachers get paid in Oklahoma according to how much experience they have and their education level. I'm not making this crap up. It's on a government website and it's public information. Teacher Salary (http://sde.state.ok.us/Teacher/Salary/default.html - broken link)

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Old 03-30-2011, 09:01 AM
 
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What is this chart? It doesn't even make sense. No teachers, that I know of, get paid hourly.
That chart is from the teacher portal site that another poster referenced for national teacher pay statistics. It isn't claiming you are paid hourly, it is likely taking into account two months off in summer, a week for spring break, two weeks for winter break, and all the regular holidays to calculate hourly pay based on an annual salary.

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Look at the Oklahoma Department of Education website. It clearly shows what teachers get paid in Oklahoma according to how much experience they have and their education level.
I don't think you are making it up. Your salary is 35k, which I still maintain seems pretty reasonable given much fewer work days annually than other professions, a pension, and no advanced degree, and being in Oklahoma which I don't believe is a part of the country with high cost of living.
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Old 03-30-2011, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Owasso, OK
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That chart is from the teacher portal site that another poster referenced for national teacher pay statistics. It isn't claiming you are paid hourly, it is likely taking into account two months off in summer, a week for spring break, two weeks for winter break, and all the regular holidays to calculate hourly pay based on an annual salary.


I don't think you are making it up. Your salary is 35k, which I still maintain seems pretty reasonable given much fewer work days annually than other professions, a pension, and no advanced degree, and being in Oklahoma which I don't believe is a part of the country with high cost of living.
I already gave you a run down of my bills- which are pretty average. I don't live in the lap of luxury by any stretch.
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Old 03-30-2011, 09:50 AM
 
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I already gave you a run down of my bills- which are pretty average. I don't live in the lap of luxury by any stretch.
I don't see how this addresses my post. This isn't about your bills, I certainly am not passing judgement on your lifestyle and I honestly don't see how one person's monthly living expenses has anything to do with the discussion.

It is about whether 35k is a fair salary for someone with that much time off and an early retirement with a pension, in a relatively inexpensive state.
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Old 03-30-2011, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Owasso, OK
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I don't see how this addresses my post. This isn't about your bills, I certainly am not passing judgement on your lifestyle and I honestly don't see how one person's monthly living expenses has anything to do with the discussion.

It is about whether 35k is a fair salary for someone with that much time off and an early retirement with a pension, in a relatively inexpensive state.
But it's NOT enough. A single person could not possibly make it on $35K per year... and not have to live in the slums, drive a '93 Civic, and not have utilities. You know- silly, frivolous things like that.
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Old 03-30-2011, 10:18 AM
 
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I don't see how this addresses my post. This isn't about your bills, I certainly am not passing judgement on your lifestyle and I honestly don't see how one person's monthly living expenses has anything to do with the discussion.

It is about whether 35k is a fair salary for someone with that much time off and an early retirement with a pension, in a relatively inexpensive state.
Where do teachers get "that much time off"?
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