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A lot of the politically vocal people don't know how to read. They get the soundbites from their network channel. They can't read beyond the headline of a story to get the background. A lot of the people on here are confusing English in high school with EASL.
The teacher has experience with these kinds of people. These people tend to argue by repeating their mantras and can't be moved by facts or logic. It's not the kind of discourse that's useful in teaching, except to hold up as an example of people who've become intellectually lazy.
To me, whatever you're going on about here is no different from people whose only method of arguing a point is to insult others, like this:
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You're distorting the story and the facts.
... you and like-minded people can't handle certain books ...
It is here where I live. My kids 8th grade science teacher taught her class that the world was going to end in 12 years and it was their parents and grandparents' fault. He has climate change posters all over the place and he was an Elizabeth Warren supporter. You do the math.
And I assume you would be just as upset if the teacher was a Trump supporter?
You can't win. The teachers unions are too strong. They are now supporting BLM in our district. Makes me sick.
I don't know about where you are located, but in all my years in education (33 years), I found the "teacher's union" to have little influence on the day to day workings of a school, particularly if you're in a right-to-work state.
It is here where I live. My kids 8th grade science teacher taught her class that the world was going to end in 12 years and it was their parents and grandparents' fault. He has climate change posters all over the place and he was an Elizabeth Warren supporter. You do the math.
Did you hear the teacher say the world was going to end in 12 years, or was that second hand information?
In my school we had a top-notch gifted program history teacher in the 8th grade. She had kids debate various topics throughout the school year (e.g., should we have dropped the atomic bombs on Japan). Kids could take either side of the debate. Sometimes, if no one took a particular side of a debate, she would represent that side of the argument. I used to keep a tally each year of the complaints I received about her (I was the principal). Roughly half of the complaints were that she was a liberal trying to indoctrinate students. Roughly half of the complaints were that she was a conservative trying to indoctrinate students. In other words, overall, she was balanced, despite what an individual parents wearing blinders might think.
Nice little story. I can't even decipher if you're making an attempt through this story to de-legitimize my post or not.
Fact is, there should be more people that have the ability to present a topic without bias. IF they're capable of leading a conversation like you stated, I'm all for it. Teachers that can lead such a balanced conversation are what our schools need.
It's NOT what most students attending our university system get. They have to regurgitate what the professor spoon feeds them in order to pass their class. Too many colleges allow this to happen. Just try and get a conservative speaker into these universities who's ALLOWED to give his/her opinions without being shouted down.
I'm sure you're talking about a high school teacher, but I interjected the college part as that is the most disgusting part of upper academics that I hate.
Look again at what the person stated about his concerns. He has an agenda, and he has no wish to show any sides other than HIS.
Every child ought to have a basic understanding of the various major world religions. If they're not familiar with the basics of those religions, they're uneducated and ill-equipped for making political decisions in their adulthood.
Knowledge is NOT faith.
Your kid can't pray at home? At church? Silently to himself or herself in school -- schools do still allow freedom of thought.
Even back in my own schooling, the only classes that really allowed freedom of thought were, of all things, shop class, my 8th grade history teacher, and my 12th grade English teacher. All others graded based on how well you regurgitated their opinion back to them. I'm not talking about facts such as 2+2 or 1776 but courses where interpretation and opinion were the order of the day.
Students learn quickly that if you want a good grade in such a class, whether it's elementary, middle, high school or college, tell the teacher what the teacher wants to hear.
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