How common or uncommon are Black/Non-black Hispanic relationships in Texas? (racism, race)

[L210]

Originally Posted by Metro Matt

San Antonio is only 7% Black & a whopping 63% Hispanic not counting all of the illegals.

I don't see how in the world it could be that common of a sight down there unless its just that noticeable.

Every time I'm in SA I rarely even see a Black person.

Even at 6.9% of the population, there are still around 90,000 black people in San Antonio not counting the surrounding cities. Most of the black people in SA are concentrated east of IH-35. So if you're in that area, they aren't hard to miss. They make up about 30% of the population in parts of the E/NE side. Whenever I see a black man coupled up with someone, there is a 50%+ chance he is with a non-black woman. When I was in a training class for a job, there were 4 black men in the class and the instructor was black. Not one of them was married to a black woman and they were all married.

[Metro Matt]

Originally Posted by L210

Even at 6.9% of the population, there are still around 90,000 black people in San Antonio not counting the surrounding cities. Most of the black people in SA are concentrated east of IH-35. So if you're in that area, they aren't hard to miss. They make up about 30% of the population in parts of the E/NE side. Whenever I see a black man coupled up with someone, there is a 50%+ chance he is with a non-black woman. When I was in a training class for a job, there were 4 black men in the class and the instructor was black. Not one of them was married to a black woman and they were all married.

SA has very large military bases. A lot of the Blacks in SA have served our country at one time or another. Makes perfect sense they would call SA home & date Hispanic women who represent the majority-minority of the population.

[ClarenceBodiker]

Hispanic and Latino is not even a race, it's an ethnicity. A Hispanic person can be of any "race" -- white, black, brown, Asian, and anything inbetween. Most people default and think of all Hispanics as mestizos as their race just because they're the majority in Central Latin America.

[doctorjef]

Originally Posted by ClarenceBodiker

Hispanic and Latino is not even a race, it's an ethnicity. A Hispanic person can be of any "race" -- white, black, brown, Asian, and anything inbetween. Most people default and think of all Hispanics as mestizos as their race just because they're the majority in Central Latin America.

This is absolutely true, of course. In a Texas context my inaccurate default designation is "Hispanic", because that's what the common parlance in Austin was during the many years I lived there (I'm old enough to recall the temporary ascendency of the term "Chicano" as well, which really is a more specific designation for Mexican-American). I think "Hispanic" also became default due to the awkwardness of "Mexican-American". In the Northeast US, where the Hispanic population historically has been mostly Puerto Rican, the common term is usually "Latino" (persons of Mexican and Central American origins have only had any significant presence in this part of the country in fairly recent years).

I think, however, we are not talking here about persons with Hispanic surnames, per the US Census Bureau, but in a Texas context largely of persons of Tejano or Mexican origins primarily and hence generally having mestizo genetic and cultural inputs.

All this points up the tiresome awkwardness of classifying individuals in terms of ethnicity. There are a lot of issues here - cultural, historical, political, sociological - that are valid and important subjects for examination and which go way beyond a specifically Texas context.

[ClarenceBodiker]

Originally Posted by doctorjef

All this points up the tiresome awkwardness of classifying individuals in terms of ethnicity. There are a lot of issues here - cultural, historical, political, sociological - that are valid and important subjects for examination and which go way beyond a specifically Texas context.

Very true, I agree. And people get way too hung up on trying to classify everyone and collectively group people into bubbles.

I've shared a couple of awkward moments with people who did not know that my blue-eyed, fair-skinned wife is actually Hispanic until after they have made some kind of derrogatory anti-Mexican/immigrant comment around us. That's always fun. Both of her parents are from Mexico.

[OpenD]

Originally Posted by ClarenceBodiker

Very true, I agree. And people get way too hung up on trying to classify everyone and collectively group people into bubbles.

Thank you. That's exactly the point I was trying to make.

[TXsurburbanmom]

Originally Posted by Rwarky

Well not in North Carolina, excluding military bases.

We moved from TX to NC a few years ago. Ended up in Holly Springs. One of the things we immediately noticed was that the area was much more segregated then what we were used to. You probably know about the huge problem win Wake ISD and busing. I also noticed how few black families were in our neighborhood compared to the overall population of that little town. We returned to SA quickly and I was so loved to sit at my first school function here and see the racial diversity despite the fact that I live out in Stone Oak which is considered "affluent".

I know interracial couples personally and see many at my church of all shades and combos. I can't guarantee you wouldn't run up against a few people with issues but overall I think you will be pleasantly surprised especially somewhere like SA with such a large military presence.

[MobileDave]

I've never truly thought about it until I read this post. In Houston I see Black/Mexican (Venezuelan, Colombian, Costa Rican...) couples every day. I guess that's to be expected from the most diverse city in Texas. Actually, according to a recently released Rice University study, Houston is now the most racially/ethnically diverse metro area in the country.

[Rwarky]

Originally Posted by MobileDave

I've never truly thought about it until I read this post. In Houston I see Black/Mexican (Venezuelan, Colombian, Costa Rican...) couples every day. I guess that's to be expected from the most diverse city in Texas. Actually, according to a recently released Rice University study, Houston is now the most racially/ethnically diverse metro area in the country.

I doubt Houston is the most diverse in the nation, but since Rice University is located in this city, I can see how and why it would tout this.

[blkgiraffe]

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is the mentality: If I type an untruth then fingers crossed the young people reading this will assume it's factual & they'll go running into this kind of paring? Lol, In my 2 yrs in Waco I saw this once. VERY common, LMAO!

At least leave your name so I can know who I'm addressing.

Perhaps you haven't noticed, but it's very common for my experience. I went to a relatively diverse school and latino/black relations were pretty common and nothing seen as unordinary. Perhaps you have a different view of things, but I have mine and I know what I've seen.

Examples: My nephew is mixed with Puerto Rican and Black. My cousin has three children with a Mexican girl. My neighbors were an interracial couple [Mexican and black], our homecoming king and queen [couple] were Venezuelan and black. My godparents are a mixed couple [PR and Black]. I could go on and on.

You lived in Waco for 2 years; I've lived there for 18.

I have no reason to lie about race relations in Texas. You may be part of the older generation; which is completely different from my generation in terms of lifestyles, mindsent and views.