More Strange Texas Weather Patterns (West, Panhandle: allergies, live in, golf)

[green_mariner]

Originally Posted by yosoyway

I remember the freeze of 83. We went to South Padre and Boca Chica beach to get some fish. It was so cold that a lot of fish died or were stunned by the cold.

It nearly wiped out the orange groves.

I lived in Ft. Worth in 1987 and my mother called that in April it snow, hailed and got up to 80 degrees in a period of 24 hours(or was it '88). I was born in 1986 so I don't know much about that.

[case44]

Originally Posted by pirate_lafitte

I lived in Ft. Worth in 1987 and my mother called that in April it snow, hailed and got up to 80 degrees in a period of 24 hours(or was it '88). I was born in 1986 so I don't know much about that.

Great storyline. Not impossible here in Texas.

[rstrstx]

Originally Posted by BobTex

200 yo palms trees 200 miles into Mexico were killed by the sustained cold weather.

Surely that's not accurate, there were some even harder freezes back at the end of the 1800s that would have killed anything that tender (now they could have died of old age - but most palms don't live 200 years). But still, '83 was terribly cold, I remember driving down to Edinburg in the summer of 1984 and it looked just awful. Dec 1989 was another severe event. People who moved to TX after 1990 don't realize just how extreme some of the cold outbreaks here can get

[BobTex]

Originally Posted by rstrstx

Surely that's not accurate, there were some even harder freezes back at the end of the 1800s that would have killed anything that tender (now they could have died of old age - but most palms don't live 200 years). But still, '83 was terribly cold, I remember driving down to Edinburg in the summer of 1984 and it looked just awful. Dec 1989 was another severe event. People who moved to TX after 1990 don't realize just how extreme some of the cold outbreaks here can get

Flew in to CD Victoria in '84 to fish Lake Guerrero. That is just what the outfitter/lodge operator told me. I know nothing of palm trees. It was at the governors palace there (in Victoria). I didn't have first hand knowlege of that so no confirmation on that.

[rstrstx]

Really? Interesting story and an interesting area (did a Texan tell you that story by the way?) Most older buildings in Cd Victoria date back to around the turn of the last century though some might be a little older. I think Jimenez is the oldest town in the area around the lake. That and the Santa Engracia have been there for centuries. The airport at Victoria recorded 23F in '83 and probably a similar low in '89. It can get surprisingly cold down there in the megafreezes, you have to get to about the Llera area before you see old coconuts. In Dec 2004 they had a light freeze a good 30+ miles south of the Tropic line, even on the coastal road.

[BobTex]

Originally Posted by rstrstx

Really? Interesting story and an interesting area (did a Texan tell you that story by the way?) .

Yep ,the guy lodge (operator) was from Texas. He had us bring steaks in there because their meat was so poor. It was an interesting trip as we flew my wife's boss's Lear in there with a couple of customers. Total travel time out of Beaumont was only a little over 2 hours which included landing in Brownsville and then in Matamorus for the required clearances. In Matamorus clearance to take off again was $20 and a six pack! Ditto on the return flight. Great trip !

[yosoyway]

Originally Posted by rstrstx

Really? Interesting story and an interesting area (did a Texan tell you that story by the way?) Most older buildings in Cd Victoria date back to around the turn of the last century though some might be a little older. I think Jimenez is the oldest town in the area around the lake. That and the Santa Engracia have been there for centuries. The airport at Victoria recorded 23F in '83 and probably a similar low in '89. It can get surprisingly cold down there in the megafreezes, you have to get to about the Llera area before you see old coconuts. In Dec 2004 they had a light freeze a good 30+ miles south of the Tropic line, even on the coastal road.

Hey, I've been to Santa Engracia. Actually ejedrario Las Dianas which is a couple of miles before getting to Santa Engracia. Beautiful area when we were there. Especially the river.

[case44]

Well, here we are in the sixties now. I think this pattern will continue into next week.

[BobTex]

Originally Posted by case44

Well, here we are in the sixties now. I think this pattern will continue into next week.

60's by day and 30's at night with clear skies and good breezes ... does it get any better than that?????

This is my favorite time of the year!!!

[case44]

Originally Posted by BobTex

60's by day and 30's at night with clear skies and good breezes ... does it get any better than that?????

This is my favorite time of the year!!!

And next week, folks, an arctic blast. Should be by Friday in North Texas and possibly Friday night to Saturday in South/Southeast Texas. Just a possibility. We'll keep you posted.