OMG...TEXIT Nexit??? (Panhandle, Edom: weddings, live, money)

[Phil75230]

No Texit for me. I own farmland out of state and don't want to be a foreign landowner.

Beyond this, it won't happen because too many transplants don't want to end up in a foreign country, even if they're from states sufficiently similar in culture to TX (mostly Oklahoma and the other Southern states).

Forget people whose roots are in the Northeast, Great Lakes, or West Coast. Why would someone whose strongest family and property ties to, say, Alabama want to live in an independent Texas?

Beyond this, I agree this Texit thing is more media filler than substantive news. Now if polls show over 25% of people voicing support for secession, then I'll start treating the issue seriously. Until then, its more of a fluff piece disguised as real news.

[tom77falcons]

Originally Posted by Seacove

Seem a little defensive.

Hey Seacove, check out this video from Morning Joe. The mayor of Oklahoma City, OK claims that Texas "could probably get 51% to leave US".

I wouldn't exactly say the mayor of OK city knows nothing about Texas. Something is afoot. In the end, it may be better for all of us if the whole US breaks apart.


US Conference of Mayors convenes in Indianapolis | MSNBC

[tom77falcons]

Originally Posted by Phil75230

No Texit for me. I own farmland out of state and don't want to be a foreign landowner.

Beyond this, it won't happen because too many transplants don't want to end up in a foreign country, even if they're from states sufficiently similar in culture to TX (mostly Oklahoma and the other Southern states).

Forget people whose roots are in the Northeast, Great Lakes, or West Coast. Why would someone whose strongest family and property ties to, say, Alabama want to live in an independent Texas?

Beyond this, I agree this Texit thing is more media filler than substantive news. Now if polls show over 25% of people voicing support for secession, then I'll start treating the issue seriously. Until then, its more of a fluff piece disguised as real news.

Why would the Republican mayor of OK city claim on national news that a referendum in TX could likely get 51% to leave US? Don't you think he is in touch with many Republicans in TX? Seems to me Texans have over the years developed far more of an identity with Texas than with the American nationality. That is fine. It is what they choose to feel. We shouldn't try to deny that, and welcome that as their destiny and maybe other states.


Don't you all think the whole US experiment is nearing an end? This county is so hopelessly divided nothing will ever progress, and we will never move forward as this big polarized nation.


I think more and more the realization is setting in that the US is doomed. We just have nothing at all in common. People in the South and TX tend to be far more conservative politically, and have an innate distrust of the central govt, while many people where I live view the Fed Govt as a very beneficial and foundational cornerstone of this "nation".


Maybe it is time for all these states that keep talking secession to finally have a statewide referendum on it and finally make a decision.

[Tyryztoll]

I actually don't want Texas to secede. I love the United States of America, and am committed to making it a better place for my family and my fellow citizens. A legion of brave souls have given all to establish and preserve this country, and to not make every effort possible to keep America the greatest nation on earth would be a dishonor and disservice to them. I have been privileged to have lived not only in Texas, but 6 other states as well, and every one of them played a huge role in making me into the American patriot that I am. This nation is comprised by a fantastic, totally unique combo of awesome people and places, and I very much want to keep it that way.

That said, our country has changed for the worse in many ways, and there is a growing faction within it that no longer shares or respects the standards, principles and values this nation was founded upon. They reject God, they worship the earth, the media and celebrities as false idols, they reject civil discourse, they reject the rule of law and anyone who doesn't align with their "anything goes" agenda, and worst of all they envision their country dissolving into a socialistic, global puddle of mud rather than choosing to fight to keep it as the pinnacle of freedom and might that it's been for 240 years. Hard working, honest Americans who were once considered fine, upstanding citizens are now being told they're despicable, hate filled bigots who have no place in modern society. This faction has made it clear that the America the rest of us have known and loved is no longer the America they want.

Again, I do not favor Texas secession at this time.......but I do believe the social and political divide in this nation is nearing the point of no return. The pressure point can only build so much before it finally snaps. If the aforementioned faction in this country continues to grow in their open rebellion, misguided hatred for decent people, and militant fervor, it is entirely possible they could leave Texas with little choice but to leave, because I tell you this: We are not about to sit back and have this way of life taken from us.....and should secession ever be forced, Texas will NOT be the only state attempting it.

[KathrynAragon]

Originally Posted by lonestar2007

Actually, I just made an off the cuff remark on your comment about it being therapeutic (I guess by discussing this) for you.

As to your point, after much repetition on your part, I think we're all clear on that. You want Texas to shut up or put up. What you seem to be totally unable to comprehend is that Texas is a big state, lots of people, (can you visualize it yet?) and here you want to take the actions of a few and turn it into some big issue. It's not an issue. You're all hot and bothered by the actions of a few people in a far off place from where you reside which makes it difficult for anyone to understand your obviously over the top concern in all of this. I mean seriously, so what if a small fraction of people living in Texas like to talk succession. Texans aren't even bothered by it, so why should it bother you?

You are addressing the entire state of Texas and you keep saying, just do it, do it, do it. OMG Really? Again, really try and get a whole picture here. Stop and think, big, big place, lots and lots of people (lol I'm going to try this repetition back on you, maybe you need repetition to understand. You are concerned with the actions of a mere fraction of all of these lots and lots pf people. Is this making it any clearer for you? Getting warmer now? Regardless, you don't live in Texas so it's absolutely none of your business. You don't like listening to it, then don't. Dang, how hard can that be? Here's a little free therapeutic advice for you. When something as trivial as this manages to get you on a roll like you've been on today, you need to just stop, take a deep breath and find something immediately to divert your attention to.

So just remember, a small fraction of the people does not account for the entire population of Texas, so you cannot address the entire state of Texas like it does, so just stop it. Fair enough? I sure hope this doesn't keep you awake at night. I'll tell you, it's simply not worth it.

BTW it doesn't get old if you don't pay attention to it in the first place.

To top it all off, he's spouting the same rhetoric on this thread:
//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...l#post44549725

Sure does seem to like repeating himself and fixating on Texas. Like you, I think it's a little bit weird.

[lonestar2007]

Originally Posted by Seacove

Seem a little defensive.

Now you're reduced to grasping. No, nothing defensive at all in my post and I'm sorry you interpreted it that way. Who knows, perhaps at some point in your life you might be able to understand you simply cannot define an entire class of people by of actions of a few, but it's obvious today is not that day.

[lonestar2007]

Originally Posted by KathrynAragon

To top it all off, he's spouting the same rhetoric on this thread:
//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...l#post44549725

Sure does seem to like repeating himself and fixating on Texas. Like you, I think it's a little bit weird.

It sure is odd. I know if I lived in Washington I could care less what a small select group of people in Texas talked about. Yes, just weird.

[TxStorm72]

Lived in Texas almost all of my life.

I am currently NOT in favor of Texit. Without America, there would've never been a Texas to begin with. I love America, I respect America, and I will always appreciate America, especially for helping to create Texas!

I hope Texas never has to leave the US or that would definitely be a VERY sad day!

[Cowboys fan in Houston]

Originally Posted by Tyryztoll

That said, our country has changed for the worse in many ways, and there is a growing faction within it that no longer shares or respects the standards, principles and values this nation was founded upon. They reject God, they worship the earth, the media and celebrities as false idols, they reject civil discourse, they reject the rule of law and anyone who doesn't align with their "anything goes" agenda, and worst of all they envision their country dissolving into a socialistic, global puddle of mud rather than choosing to fight to keep it as the pinnacle of freedom and might that it's been for 240 years. Hard working, honest Americans who were once considered fine, upstanding citizens are now being told they're despicable, hate filled bigots who have no place in modern society. This faction has made it clear that the America the rest of us have known and loved is no longer the America they want.
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There is nothing wrong with rejecting God or Worshiping the earth. If you don't want to worship the earth don't do it its as simple as that.

Also, its funny that you think all honest hard working Americans are now called bigots. Apples and oranges. Some Americans/Texans are bigots, most are not. If you want to keep people from having the same rights as you do, you're a bigot. Its as simple as that. If you want to keep gay people from getting married, you're a bigot. If you want to keep others from a different religion or ethnicity out, you're a bigot. Its not a hard concept. You can have the opinion that gays are sodomites and all Muslims are terrorists, but its when you try and change the law reflect those ridiculous views that I and others like me will get in your face.

Frankly, I don't care if Texas secedes because theres no way the major cities will go with it. Those losers can go live in the Panhandle and become the Christian answer to Saudi Arabia.

[Tyryztoll]

Originally Posted by peterlemonjello

There is nothing wrong with rejecting God or Worshiping the earth. If you don't want to worship the earth don't do it its as simple as that.

Also, its funny that you think all honest hard working Americans are now called bigots. Apples and oranges. Some Americans/Texans are bigots, most are not. If you want to keep people from having the same rights as you do, you're a bigot. Its as simple as that. If you want to keep gay people from getting married, you're a bigot. If you want to keep others from a different religion or ethnicity out, you're a bigot. Its not a hard concept. You can have the opinion that gays are sodomites and all Muslims are terrorists, but its when you try and change the law reflect those ridiculous views that I and others like me will get in your face.

Frankly, I don't care if Texas secedes because theres no way the major cities will go with it. Those losers can go live in the Panhandle and become the Christian answer to Saudi Arabia.

That's your opinion. I disagree, but I respect it as a free American.

See how easy that is, liberals?