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Old 06-05-2014, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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And? What's your point? Because Houston has no zoning it's different? Doesn't make it better. And don't throw that crap about socialism at me. I don't deal in that line of work.
Again, as usual, you're taking my words out of context.

I never said being different is better. Please feel free to quote where I stated that.

The fact Houston chooses to go against the grain is what I like about the place. Its the free spirited attitude the city silently, but proudly touts, unlike cities such as Austin (even Dallas to an extent) that make a big hulaballoo about it.

Houston doesn't need to make a big deal about it because its naturally quirky.

You won't find another city in America like Houston.

 
Old 06-05-2014, 11:16 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Again, as usual, you're taking my words out of context.

I never said being different is better. Please feel free to quote where I stated that.

The fact Houston chooses to go against the grain is what I like about the place. Its the free spirited attitude the city silently, but proudly touts, unlike cities such as Austin (even Dallas to an extent) that make a big hulaballoo about it.

Houston doesn't need to make a big deal about it because its naturally quirky.

You won't find another city in America like Houston.
Because you usually don't make a point. All you do is exaggerate and speak on superficial nonsense. There are many cities that are quirky WITH zoning. Ask the people in single family hoods if they are happy "going against the grain" with highrises towering over them.
 
Old 06-05-2014, 11:20 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Some people prefer no zoning, some doubt. I don't mind it. I am just not a fan of all of the unincorporated areas.
I have no problem with the preference. I really prefer Houston to Dallas. But the fact that Dallas has zoning makes me prefer Houston only slightly.
 
Old 06-06-2014, 08:40 AM
 
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I really prefer Houston to Dallas. But the fact that Dallas has zoning makes me prefer Houston only slightly.
Dallas and Houston zoning laws really aren't very different. Houston has plenty of zoning laws, such as setbacks, percent covered by vegetation, parking space rules, and street tree coverage that are equal to or more restrictive than Dallas.

And you can't say Dallas has restrictive zoning rules as they are attempting to build a suburban Sam's Club next to a tower, light rail, and just a few blocks from downtown. Most of Dallas' suburbs would deny that. There are also plenty of areas in Dallas and other cities where short residential is next to highrises. Keller Springs road where there is a giant lone condo tower right next to squatty 2 story condos would be one example. Along Preston Road would be a second.

Dallas does separate residential from industrial, but so does Houston, both at least for non-poor people.
 
Old 06-06-2014, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Richardson
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Dallas and Houston zoning laws really aren't very different. Houston has plenty of zoning laws, such as setbacks, percent covered by vegetation, parking space rules, and street tree coverage that are equal to or more restrictive than Dallas.

And you can't say Dallas has restrictive zoning rules as they are attempting to build a suburban Sam's Club next to a tower, light rail, and just a few blocks from downtown. Most of Dallas' suburbs would deny that. There are also plenty of areas in Dallas and other cities where short residential is next to highrises. Keller Springs road where there is a giant lone condo tower right next to squatty 2 story condos would be one example. Along Preston Road would be a second.

Dallas does separate residential from industrial, but so does Houston, both at least for non-poor people.
That's true. You will always have those examples of the odd-placed tower looming above single family neighborhoods in probably every city; however, Dallas in general tends to be stricter with where they develop real estate. Houston is more relaxed.

I like the amount of high-rises that are being built in Houston, but I also like the way Dallas is concentrating their developments adjacent to downtown. So I like both aspects of zoning(or lack thereof).
 
Old 06-06-2014, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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Because you usually don't make a point. All you do is exaggerate and speak on superficial nonsense. There are many cities that are quirky WITH zoning. Ask the people in single family hoods if they are happy "going against the grain" with highrises towering over them.
None nearly as quirky as Houston. XXX video stores, next to churches, next to massage parlors, next to liquor stores.

Highrises over single family neighborhoods has been going on in Houston since the 1970's & 80's. The Huntingdon, the tallest residential tower in Texas was built in 1984 smack dab in the middle of River Oaks.
 
Old 06-06-2014, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Dallas and Houston zoning laws really aren't very different. Houston has plenty of zoning laws, such as setbacks, percent covered by vegetation, parking space rules, and street tree coverage that are equal to or more restrictive than Dallas.

And you can't say Dallas has restrictive zoning rules as they are attempting to build a suburban Sam's Club next to a tower, light rail, and just a few blocks from downtown. Most of Dallas' suburbs would deny that. There are also plenty of areas in Dallas and other cities where short residential is next to highrises. Keller Springs road where there is a giant lone condo tower right next to squatty 2 story condos would be one example. Along Preston Road would be a second.

Dallas does separate residential from industrial, but so does Houston, both at least for non-poor people.
I've read that the city actually denied Trammel Crow and Sam's Club from building that store by Cityplace in Dallas. Anyway, you may be right on how they aren't that different. But Dallas won't go crazy by building anything to next like Houston at times does.
 
Old 06-06-2014, 01:19 PM
 
Location: The Bayou City
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woah.. MM. i love your enthusiasm for Houston but the Huntington is far from the tallest residential tower in Texas.. The Austonian beats it by over 250'.
 
Old 06-06-2014, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Dallas,Texas
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woah.. MM. i love your enthusiasm for Houston but the Huntington is far from the tallest residential tower in Texas.. The Austonian beats it by over 250'.


Help your friend out...
 
Old 06-06-2014, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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woah.. MM. i love your enthusiasm for Houston but the Huntington is far from the tallest residential tower in Texas.. The Austonian beats it by over 250'.
The Austonian isn't all residential either while the Huntingdon is.

Technically its a yes & no answer. The Austonian is the tallest resdidential in Texas if you're counting those other floors that aren't residential & the spire on top.

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