08-07-2013, 10:14 PM
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The only adavange Dallas seems to have over Houston is Mass transit and even those numbers are not over whelming once you factor in Houston park and ride.. bigger yes but not over whelming
according to the 2012 ridership report Dallas combined mass transit system has a daily ridership of 252,900, Houston combined transit system has a ridership of 290,000
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Page 26 of the report..
http://www.apta.com/resources/statis...rship-APTA.pdf
why post those numbers if you already admitted that Dallas has better transit?..It's like you are arguing with yourself....ughh..yall goin overboard now.
08-07-2013, 10:39 PM
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why post those numbers if you already admitted that Dallas has better transit?..It's like you are arguing with yourself....ughh..yall goin overboard now.
turns out i was wrong.. Houston had higher ridership than Dallas.. In 2012 the other post was a re-edit and I never corrected the orignal post after I checked the numbers, even fact Houston has had the over all ridership for some time now at least as far back as 2010 , of course the futher back you go the harder it is to find the data
How are we going over board.. like Jay-z once said men lie, women lie..numbers don't
08-07-2013, 11:19 PM
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turns out i was wrong.. Houston had higher ridership than Dallas.. In 2012 the other post was a re-edit and I never corrected the orignal post after I checked the numbers, even fact Houston has had the over all ridership for some time now at least as far back as 2010 , of course the futher back you go the harder it is to find the data
we've been through the transit debate a million times over.....<sigh>
....not again please.
08-07-2013, 11:20 PM
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Higher ridership doesn't mean better transit. There is a large number of things that Houston does better than Dallas. Any fair and unbiased observer can see that. Transit simply isn't one of them. I don't give a **** about ridership numbers. Car culture is king in Texas, and for whatever reason, a higher percentage of people choose not to use the public resources of mass transit in the Dallas area. Either way, it is there and available and functional, and is no less than two decades ahead of Houston's system. By the time that Houston gets rail outside of its central core, Dallas-Fort Worth and all of their suburbs will be connected by rail. Quit beating this dead horse.
08-07-2013, 11:25 PM
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Higher ridership doesn't mean better transit. There is a large number of things that Houston does better than Dallas. Any fair and unbiased observer can see that. Transit simply isn't one of them. I don't give a **** about ridership numbers. Car culture is king in Texas, and for whatever reason, a higher percentage of people choose not to use the public resources of mass transit in the Dallas area. Either way, it is there and available and functional, and is no less than two decades ahead of Houston's system. By the time that Houston gets rail outside of its central core, Dallas-Fort Worth and all of their suburbs will be connected by rail. Quit beating this dead horse.
why don't you actually read before commenting hmm.. I stated that Dallas had the better transit system, but Houston has betters ridership.. so by making that point I pretty much just said that ridership and quality are not the same thing.. Not my fault if you can not follow that simple statement..
I quote"
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The only adavange Dallas seems to have over Houston is Mass transit and even those numbers are not over whelming once you factor in Houston park and ride.. bigger yes but not over whelming
The only thing dallasboi asked about was the numbers , which I explained i had posted before I checked them and never corrected them... Now point to where I mentioned the quality of the Dart system ? Now I stated dallas had the edge in mass transit , just not as overwhelming so as many dallas homers to paint it as..
To address your point thu what does it matter if you have the better system if it does not translate to higher useage ?
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08-07-2013, 11:58 PM
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why don't you actually read before commenting hmm.. I stated that Dallas had the better transit system, but Houston has betters ridership.. so by making that point I pretty much just said that ridership and quality are not the same thing.. Not my fault if you can not follow that simple statement..
For starters, I'm drunk. Kindly leave my reading comprehension out of this. Okay?
Second, a better system is a better system regardless of the usage. Texas is car country. But if you need mass transit, there is a better and more comprehensive system available in DFW.
I agree with you otherwise that there's not a big difference between Dallas and Houston. But both sides exaggerate their strengths, not just Dallas. In the end, Houston is better at some things and Dallas at others. I still think both are rather generic big cities for being Texas's flagships. I'm personally more of a Ft. Worth, Austin, San Antonio fan. But these threads can be amusing, nonetheless.
08-08-2013, 12:04 AM
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<sigh>
Let's just all settle it that Dallas beats Houston at lightrail transit, hands down and Houston beats Dallas in skylines, freeways, restaurants, theater, medical services, entertainment, downtown, stadiums, and just about everything else.
Now we should get back to the topic of the skylines before this thread gets closed.
08-08-2013, 12:17 AM
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<sigh>
Let's just all settle it that Dallas beats Houston at lightrail transit, hands down and Houston beats Dallas in skylines, freeways, restaurants, theater, medical services, entertainment, downtown, stadiums, and just about everything else.
Now we should get back to the topic of the skylines before this thread gets closed.
Wait this is about skylines..lol
But Dallas does have the better rail system(overall)
08-08-2013, 07:30 AM
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Wait this is about skylines..lol
But Dallas does have the better rail system(overall)
Indeed. Far superior.
You guys are like a little bratty sister in a training bra. Honestly, I see very little thoughtful development in Houston. All you guys have are skyscrapers. And they aren't any good after a few years because the executives get oil and gas all over everything. On occasion, when a hurricane blows through, all the windows will blow out before the skyscrapers float away down the ship channel.
08-08-2013, 09:26 AM
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Indeed. Far superior.
no not far superior if it was that then it would be boosting better numbers .. yes it is more extensive but it terms of useage it is being out paced by Houston.. It B.s homer commnets like your that feed the neg of this dallas vs Houston.. That is Dallas one glaring problem they are obessed with image over actual purpose... that absurd bridge ya,ll commsioned is the perfect example
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Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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