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91 now in Chicago, and we still have plenty of weekend to go.
As for what can be done, nothing realistically though there are some extreme measures that would have a huge, positive impact. But not in today's overly sensitive environment.
The massive Queens is at 4 so far. At this rate it will finish somewhere close to Toronto, amazing
It about 40 now with 103 shooting victims shooting is down 25-30% from same time last year. It amazing 103 people shot in NYC compare to 428 in Chicago. NYC is on track for under 300 or 315 total murders..
Chicago and NY continue to go in the opposite directions. One is on pace to equaling or exceeding the Crack Era murder rate days and the other is getting closer to major European/Canadian cities yearly murder rates. Talk about the tale of 2 cities...
Chicago and NY continue to go in the opposite directions. One is on pace to equaling or exceeding the Crack Era murder rate days and the other is getting closer to major European/Canadian cities yearly murder rates. Talk about the tale of 2 cities...
Except NY had to become a police state to reach murder levels that are still 3x that of Europe. European murder rates are low and they have a lot less people in prison, shorter prison sentences and passive police forces.
Except NY had to become a police state to reach murder levels that are still 3x that of Europe.
How is NYC a "police state"?
NYC has lower levels of police shootings and police misconduct than basically any major American city. It would be the furthest possible thing from a "police state" in the U.S.
And your "stats" about murder rates are made up too.
And you don't cut crime by becoming a "police state". In the 1970's NYC had 20x the number of police shootings as today, yet the murder rate was 7x higher. Chicago has far more police shootings than NYC yet has much higher crime.
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Originally Posted by joeyg2014
European murder rates are low and they have a lot less people in prison, shorter prison sentences and passive police forces.
NY State has some of the lowest incarceration rates in the U.S., and one of the fastest declining prison populations, and generally has very progressive punishments, so that makes zero sense too. The prison population in NY State has been plummeting and they are even considering closing prisons and closing Rikers Island (NYC's jail).
And the officer-to-citizen ratio in NYC is at its lowest rate in decades. There were actually far more police in NYC relative to population back when crime was out of control decades ago.
The NYPD is down about 8,000 police from peak years.
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