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Old 06-30-2020, 01:31 PM
 
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Latest report, re: Senate bill


Link: https://www.reuters.com/article/heal...-idUSW1N2BC01K

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Old 06-30-2020, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Oregon
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Latest report, re: Senate bill


Link: https://www.reuters.com/article/heal...-idUSW1N2BC01K

Thoughts?
he says "“basic protections” provided by federal unemployment insurance should be included but indicated they would not be as generous as those in pandemic-related legislation enacted earlier this year."

Which suggests that there will be something... but nothing like $600/week. I have a feeling it will be more like... the work search requirements will still be waived... and maybe a wee bit extra. However, for congress to pass it, it will have to have something for UI, I think
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Old 06-30-2020, 02:44 PM
 
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It most likely means if states run out of unemployment money in their state funds they can borrow from the Feds. This happened a lot during the Great Recession.
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Old 06-30-2020, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Durham NC
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I watch Brian Kim a CPA from Chicago who has a YouTube channel. He read a short letter from a senator or congressman for get which on the air today. This government clown recommends the following if you are unemployed and can't make ends meet. Sell your car your jewelry your assets run up your credit cards and borrow from family. Hope he drowns on his vacation.
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Old 06-30-2020, 03:13 PM
 
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I watch Brian Kim a CPA from Chicago who has a YouTube channel. He read a short letter from a senator or congressman for get which on the air today. This government clown recommends the following if you are unemployed and can't make ends meet. Sell your car your jewelry your assets run up your credit cards and borrow from family. Hope he drowns on his vacation.
Yeah, that's seriously unhelpful.

EDITED: Okay, so I went and found the letter Kim was referencing. The verbiage in the letter seems to be taken out of context. Here it is if you want to read it: https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/202...ley-Letter.pdf

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Old 06-30-2020, 03:28 PM
 
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...and say IF it passes, it will not go live until late August, right? If that happens and some of us are back to 'regular UI' status, what happens...will we get retro or what? Just thinking/speaking out loud....
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Old 06-30-2020, 03:30 PM
 
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I watch Brian Kim a CPA from Chicago who has a YouTube channel. He read a short letter from a senator or congressman for get which on the air today. This government clown recommends the following if you are unemployed and can't make ends meet. Sell your car your jewelry your assets run up your credit cards and borrow from family. Hope he drowns on his vacation.
God works in mysterious ways. That's hope a bolt of lightning hits him at sea lol
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Old 06-30-2020, 03:30 PM
 
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he says "“basic protections” provided by federal unemployment insurance should be included but indicated they would not be as generous as those in pandemic-related legislation enacted earlier this year."

Which suggests that there will be something... but nothing like $600/week. I have a feeling it will be more like... the work search requirements will still be waived... and maybe a wee bit extra. However, for congress to pass it, it will have to have something for UI, I think
Yeah, my guess has always been reducing the $600 to @ $300-$400 per week. Just a guess, though.
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Old 06-30-2020, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Durham NC
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Yeah, that's seriously unhelpful.

EDITED: Okay, so I went and found the letter Kim was referencing. The verbiage in the letter seems to be taken out of context. Here it is if you want to read it: https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/202...ley-Letter.pdf

Out of context my a$$. That's exactly what he said. I read the entire letter. Hopefully he's unemployed soon but no matter I am sure there is a job waiting.
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Old 06-30-2020, 04:09 PM
 
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Yeah, that's seriously unhelpful.

EDITED: Okay, so I went and found the letter Kim was referencing. The verbiage in the letter seems to be taken out of context. Here it is if you want to read it: https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/202...ley-Letter.pdf
I tend to agree, slightly taken out of context. For those who don't want to scroll thru the pages below is the paragraph referenced.

Effects on Consumption

When people become unemployed, they generally consume fewer goods
and services. To pay for food, housing, and other living expenses while
unemployed, people can draw on their savings, borrow money, sell assets
(such as cars or jewelry), or use funds received from other people or the
government. Many unemployed people have little or no savings and would
face high interest rates on loans. Some people could draw on retirement
savings: The CARES Act allows people affected by the pandemic to
withdraw from tax-preferred retirement savings accounts without incurring
a tax penalty.

The additional $600 per week in unemployment benefits under current law
allows people to continue to consume goods and services that they might
otherwise be unable to afford and to save for future contingencies. The
average amount that recipients spend on food, housing, and other goods and
services is, in CBO’s assessment, closer to what they spent when employed
than it would be without those additional benefits. CBO anticipates that if
the additional $600 per week was extended to the end of January 2021, that
pattern would continue—in part, because the extension would allow people
to make more payments on loans and therefore have greater access to credit
in the future than they would have otherwise.

Funding the additional unemployment benefits would, however, increase
the federal budget deficit. In CBO’s assessment, larger deficits tend to slow
the growth of the economy in the long term, thereby reducing overall
income and the consumption of goods and services in the future.
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