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Even if footage surfaced showing Patterson, Gimlin, and Heironomous cooking up the deception then purchasing and modifying the suit and Bob Heironomous putting it on, True Believers would still believe.
For example, when subsequent photos showed that the face on Cydonia was just the product of a poor quality image and pareidolia, True Believers then accused NASA of doctoring the *new* photos so they don't look like a real face any more. When you're invested in a certain story about reality, inconvenient truths get filtered out.
Even if footage surfaced showing Patterson, Gimlin, and Heironomous cooking up the deception then purchasing and modifying the suit and Bob Heironomous putting it on, True Believers would still believe.
For example, when subsequent photos showed that the face on Cydonia was just the product of a poor quality image and pareidolia, True Believers then accused NASA of doctoring the *new* photos so they don't look like a real face any more. When you're invested in a certain story about reality, inconvenient truths get filtered out.
I am not that way and there are several around here are the same. I started out to bust this as a hoax and have not been able to. There are thousands of people that have had sightings and did not think anything about a BF until they had there experience and quite a few wish they never had and want nothing to do with this stuff.
There used to be a $50,00.00 offer on anyone that could make the same costume using the materials available back then. No one tried to collect the cash because they couldn't do it.
In the Patterson footage, the figure's muscles are flexing noticeably as the figure walks away. To simulate that, the BBC's costume designers in Hollywood had to create a costume that would show the same effect of flexing muscles.
Remote controlled soft-tissue prosthetics were not invented until well after 1967, so they could not have been used in an honest replica of a 1967 costume. The costume had to allow the actor's own muscles to flex the outermost surface of the costume.
There used to be a $50,00.00 offer on anyone that could make the same costume using the materials available back then. No one tried to collect the cash because they couldn't do it.
At this point, you've got so many people making competing claims about the hoaxing of the film that we'll probably never know for sure the truth behind it. Patterson swore on his deathbed that it wasn't a hoax. That to me carries a lot of weight, as does Gimlin's continued claim that it wasn't a hoax. Patterson certainly had nothing to gain by lying on his deathbed. But what I see is a lot of fingerpointing in all directions, and for every analysis that claims to prove it's not a man in a suit, there are counter analyses claiming to prove it is a man in a suit. I will say, the thing in the video moves in a way that doesn't look like a man in a suit to me, but that's a gut feeling rather than an objective analysis. And I will admit, it's the best evidence for bigfoot ever recorded or documented, period. I've seen the BBC film, and its failure to be convincing is rather embarrassing for the hoax claimers, for sure.
A mentally-challenged man wanders into the woods and goes "feral," becoming a wild-haired, smelly, unshaven beast of a man living off what he can scrounge-up and a legend is created - bigfoot.
If folks out there have been in the woods as much as some with an open mind... they'd know something is out there. You just have too open your eyes and ears. My point is there are 1000s of sightings and I'm sure some folks are lying but not everyone is. The Indians were not all lying...the missionaries of yesterday, Teddy and the mountain men weren't all lying. They had no reason to and then of the 1000s of people that have seen them...there are 1000s more that have not reported what they have seen...are they lying too?
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........In the Patterson footage, the figure's muscles are flexing noticeably as the figure walks away. To simulate that, the BBC's costume designers in Hollywood had to create a costume that would show the same effect of flexing muscles.
Remote controlled soft-tissue prosthetics were not invented until well after 1967, so they could not have been used in an honest replica of a 1967 costume. The costume had to allow the actor's own muscles to flex the outermost surface of the costume.
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This is just silly. Hieronomus was young and muscular then, and complained about how tightly the suit fit him. No need for remote controlled soft-tissue prosthetics!
To me the gait looks entirely human if slightly odd, in fact quite similar to the way I walk. I'm about the same height and proportions as the squatch ..... in fact I also have shoulders that are "abnormally" wide. But I don't have a glass eye to reflect the sun, so it wasn't me!
Basic fact about all large primates: They don't have hair on their breasts. That guy in the suit in the Patterson film did. It is a guy in a suit.
Not sure that's true of all primates:
"There is no hair on a chimpanzee’s face, hands, or feet, but the rest of its body is covered with either long black or brown hair."
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