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Old 04-22-2021, 09:56 AM
 
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The thing which you are probably purposely ignoring, is that a hominid is totally different from any other species. No-one cares(much) if you go and shoot an animal, but what if you go shoot a human or human-like creature? There are all kinds of moral and ethical issues raised just because this might be a human-like being. We like to think we are 'different' from other animals because of our 'superior' intellect and that is the factor which your post does not address.

DNA analysis does not give us clues how hominids were interrelated. If it did, we would know where our human characteristics came from. All it can tell us is the original parentage which may be part chimpanzee and part something else. We do not have enough fossils to show us the path from modern humans backwards and the physical characteristics of a human are totally different to the original chimpanzee, so at some stage we much have lost all our hair and developed the human physical attributes.

Source (see also the links on the right hand side of that New Scientist article)
This is why many hunters who have seen Sasquatch, cannot fire their weapon at it...they say it just looks too human.
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Old 04-23-2021, 03:59 AM
 
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I haven't read the whole thread so I apologize if somebody else has already mentioned this but there are several indigenous tribes here in North America that believe in Little People, and I am not referring to dwarfs.

There are many stories about them, and not just from the distant past but even here present day times. They can be pretty ornery.
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Old 04-23-2021, 12:54 PM
 
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I haven't read the whole thread so I apologize if somebody else has already mentioned this but there are several indigenous tribes here in North America that believe in Little People, and I am not referring to dwarfs.

There are many stories about them, and not just from the distant past but even here present day times. They can be pretty ornery.
Pukwudgies among the Algonquins, among other names:

Pukwudgies, little people of the Algonquian tribes (Pukwudgie, Puckwudgie, Bagwajinini)
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Old 04-24-2021, 12:55 AM
 
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Im in the mood for some tasty fire grilled gnome!
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Old 04-19-2022, 01:24 PM
 
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"El Duende" (Gnomes, Trolls, Dwarfs, etc) have been known in cultures all around the world. In the Philippines, South America, multiple Native American tribes, Polynesian and Indonesian culture, and all across ancient Europe. I've done extensive research in the past and they are what I believe to be a subset of pygmies or what is scientifically known as Homo floresiensis (aka Hobbits). Just like vast swaths of homo sapiens, I believe these "little people" are made up of various ethnic/racial groups of a multitude of smaller sizes that have lived either deep underground, in forest, or in caves virtually undiscovered by the public for centuries. They move at incredible speeds that most of us couldn't fathom. They have been known to be mischievous and play pranks on humans or cause mayhem, that's consistent with the mythology surrounding them. I believe most of the tribes have died off over the last thousands of years but few are remaining. Alot of Latinos and Filipinos say they are still around and causing trouble. I have no reason to dismiss their experiences or yours because there is alot that is unexplainable in this world and we don't know much of anything. Alot of these "fairytales" and greek mythologies are based in some foundation of truth that we decided were stories.
upcoming book argues floresiensis still exists.

https://www.the-scientist.com/magazi...be-alive-69869
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Old 04-19-2022, 01:41 PM
 
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In Hawaii, the legends are about Menehune (may-nay-HOO-nay), small people who build things during the night. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menehu...20and%20houses.

My husband was swimming in a remote area of the Big Island, and dove into an underwater tunnel, coming up in a cave, where there were child-sized beds and lit candles. No one was there.

Hubby was a little spooked and never went back, always called it the Menehune cave.

Most caves in Hawaii are part of lava tubes, which can stretch for miles and have many access points, so whoever lit the candles may have slipped away when they heard him splashing.


Hawaii also has legends of Night Marchers https://www.to-hawaii.com/legends/night-marchers.php
It's bad luck to even speak of them, and some places are so creepy, they are thought to be favorite Night Marcher haunts.
One creepy area I avoided was MacKenzie Park, even before a murdered woman's body was found there. I was happy to hear it got covered by lava a few years ago.

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Old 04-19-2022, 11:33 PM
 
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In Hawaii, the legends are about Menehune (may-nay-HOO-nay), small people who build things during the night. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menehu...20and%20houses.

My husband was swimming in a remote area of the Big Island, and dove into an underwater tunnel, coming up in a cave, where there were child-sized beds and lit candles. No one was there.

Hubby was a little spooked and never went back, always called it the Menehune cave.

Most caves in Hawaii are part of lava tubes, which can stretch for miles and have many access points, so whoever lit the candles may have slipped away when they heard him splashing.


Hawaii also has legends of Night Marchers https://www.to-hawaii.com/legends/night-marchers.php
It's bad luck to even speak of them, and some places are so creepy, they are thought to be favorite Night Marcher haunts.
One creepy area I avoided was MacKenzie Park, even before a murdered woman's body was found there. I was happy to hear it got covered by lava a few years ago.
This is a weird cryptid to discuss, Ive read a pretty good amount of 'gnome/little person reports', (there are not a huge amount of them, nothing like Bigfoot or dogman), but apparently they do happen from time to time.


I think we can all rule out 'misidentification' for this!! Nothing in the known world I can think of comes anywhere close to looking like the descriptions people have given! The pod caster I used to listen to, claimed to see these things a few times, (in one particular house he lived in), he said they were very tiny, 4-6" tall, he saw one run down the hallway and it jumped into a mirror and was gone, he said it had human like clothing on and grayish colored skin.


If cryptids are out there, I think they are all ONE THING, (just taking on different forms on different situations, for whatever reason they have for doing that, IDK?
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Old 04-23-2022, 05:43 AM
 
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In Hawaii, the legends are about Menehune (may-nay-HOO-nay), small people who build things during the night. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menehu...20and%20houses.

My husband was swimming in a remote area of the Big Island, and dove into an underwater tunnel, coming up in a cave, where there were child-sized beds and lit candles. No one was there.

Hubby was a little spooked and never went back, always called it the Menehune cave.

Most caves in Hawaii are part of lava tubes, which can stretch for miles and have many access points, so whoever lit the candles may have slipped away when they heard him splashing.
Wow! That's crazy to read. I saw a picture years ago of what they called a "Menehune Cave" in Kauai. I don't know if it was in fact a lava tube but it didn't look natural. It literally looked like a tiny cave that someone carved out. You can see a picture here on this article.

The Mysteries Of The Menehune Ditch

There are pictures of other similar tiny caves too on the island here.

Kauai’s Menehune Mysteries

That's interesting though that your husband saw that cave underwater. So I'm assuming it had air pockets? Because how could candles be lit? And it makes me think about the other islands and if there are more.
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Old 04-23-2022, 08:14 AM
 
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Of course I do. I see them in gardens everywhere, and any good garden center has them.
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Old 04-23-2022, 01:58 PM
 
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Of course I do. I see them in gardens everywhere, and any good garden center has them.
I too see them in many gardens and garden centers, but sometimes I will see them on the tele, they seem to have this weird affinity toward this company called Travelocity!
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