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View Poll Results: Will the UK disintegrate?
Yes 158 33.47%
No 314 66.53%
Voters: 472. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-07-2019, 10:50 PM
 
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And may I remind your attitude that the top group in society pay a very large proportion of the tax system. You like other would-be liberal minded or just simply Labour drones cannot say that Labour achieved what the Tory admin has done. Guff is an understatement!
Nothing compared to what they (top) pull in not tax deducted. (creative accounting)There's a reason inequality is spreading in UK and its not due to the kindness of the Tories. Nor the altruistic nature of the top earners.
Like the man says, Tories look after their own. They have little need or care for those regarded as inferiors.
Considering the increasingly likelihood of not just EU exit but breakup of UK in the process, as well as dividing the population I can certainly agree Labour is well behind 'such achievements' as those, except a lot would consider that more a disaster.
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Old 08-07-2019, 11:24 PM
 
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As someone who voted leave in the Brexit Referendum, I am very happy with what is happening now, with Boris in power and determined to take us out by 31st October, deal or no deal. It is what the majority voted for. I believe that it will hit the economy to some extent, but the economy will bounce back. By no means is it the beginning of the end.
Majority voted for no deal? That is revision pure and simple.
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Old 08-07-2019, 11:36 PM
 
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Majority voted for no deal? That is revision pure and simple.
That's right........ the majority who voted, did so to leave the EU. Can't help the ones who could have voted, who didn't.
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Old 08-08-2019, 01:18 AM
 
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That's right........ the majority who voted, did so to leave the EU. Can't help the ones who could have voted, who didn't.
You deliberately avoided what I wrote. The is no democratic mandate from either the 2016 referendum or the general election. Things change and wot not but sticking to this will of the people stuff is just a false.
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Old 08-08-2019, 02:47 AM
 
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No. The whole negotiated deal stinks. Handing over £39 billion to the EU for what? So we can get the nod of approval from the EU, as all debts settled? No trade deal of any kind, and we hand over all that money?

Better to crash out. They will try and stitch us up whatever we do. An example has to be made of us.
I didn't go into any detail about renumeration, I specifically asked about an EU border in the Irish Sea
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Old 08-08-2019, 02:49 AM
 
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I’ve just been reading that there could be up to 40 conservative MPs prepared to bring the government down and join a national unity government with the sole intention of asking the EU for an extension with the promise of a general election and referendum.

There are several sources, here’s one

https://www.businessinsider.in/we-ca...w/70533912.cms

It’s going to get a lot messier before this is sorted.
If that happened, the PM, s position would be completely untenable, he would have no authority
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Old 08-08-2019, 02:50 AM
 
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That's right........ the majority who voted, did so to leave the EU. Can't help the ones who could have voted, who didn't.
As has been shown it all more than a matter of simply downing wickets and going home. Nothing was explained with regards the repercussions, no detail from given, because non existed.
Now the cover has been blown and light shown on the matter, many have it would appear reconsidered their initial vote and would welcome a rerun. This time not based in lies, but with a few facts thrown into argument, on both sides.
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Old 08-08-2019, 02:53 AM
 
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If that happened, the PM, s position would be completely untenable, he would have no authority
Interesting times indeed. May well reach this situation. Boris will find being PM a little different from being mayor, his buffoonery persona being unlikely to impress anyone in his latest role.
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Old 08-08-2019, 02:59 AM
 
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Interesting times indeed. May well reach this situation. Boris will find being PM a little different from being mayor, his buffoonery persona being unlikely to impress anyone in his latest role.
He ascended to the role of PM without an election, he can't afford a mutiny
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Old 08-08-2019, 03:26 AM
 
Location: Itinerant
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As has been shown it all more than a matter of simply downing wickets and going home. Nothing was explained with regards the repercussions, no detail from given, because non existed.
Now the cover has been blown and light shown on the matter, many have it would appear reconsidered their initial vote and would welcome a rerun. This time not based in lies, but with a few facts thrown into argument, on both sides.
That's not accurate. The leave campaign ran a completely negative campaign. They explained everything is detail and extremes.

People still voted to leave.
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