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Originally Posted by English Dave
Tried buying a home in a nice area, and the cost?
I share some of your concerns about immigration Dave but they certainly aren't the cause of high house prices. That's caused by the government's refusal to accept the need for social housing and their idealogical desire to create a home owning society - and predictably failing.
Misguided schemes such as 'help to buy' together with relaxed credit has ecouraged buiding firms to build houses beyond the reach of many which has resulted in a price spiral.
Make no mistake - the tories have wrecked the housing market, with the delicate balance between prices and wages gone for good.
If you blame everything on immigrants your argument becomes less credible.
By the same token your assertion recently that we should leave the EU 'whatever the cost' shows no moderation and therefore lacks credibility.
By definition that means it would be worth it if our economy collapsed completely, and that view I think would receive zero support. Most people would file it under 'fanatical'
Having said all that Dave I genuinely do worry about immigration and I think many who see no harm in unlimited immigration are those least affected by it.
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Geoff, the last thing I am is a fanatic. I am brutally honest in my opinions, and how I see things. I have watched this country's slow slide downhill for 50 years. I don't know how old you are, but to remember a very different England, you need to be pretty old. I remember an England before invasion, not just by EU citizens, but by those who came before them.
I use my eyes, and see the results of earlier invasions. It isn't a pretty sight. Whole towns and cities changed beyond recognition. 'Diversity' and multiculturalism' in all it's pomp and glory. It is a mess.
On top of that, we have had invasion from Eastern Europe, which continues as I type. Brexit scared them off? Don't make me laugh. A continuing invasion of hundreds of thousands of people year in, year out. How is any society supposed to house such numbers without end? Plus there has been no real effort to house these people. Can you imagine how many homes would have to be built annually to do so? Instead, we have overcrowding, landlords charging whatever rent comes into their heads, and new homes priced out of the reach of most ordinary working people.
Mass immigration is the root cause of most of the problems in our society. Whether it is places in schools, or folks trying to get to work on overcrowded roads and trains, or housing the ever growing population. It has to be brought under control. Nothing is more important for the future of this country. Nothing.
If it continues, we are heading for civil strife unseen before in this country. It is a ticking time bomb. The anger unleashed by the Brexit vote has been building for decades. We will see more pain and anger in the upcoming General Election. Millions of people are furious at all politicians, and are losing faith in the political system. I don't know what direction we're heading in, but I see civil war down the line, unless a grip is got on this situation. We need politicians with vision, and brutal honesty in their outlook, to try and stop disaster overtaking this country.
I repeat again. Nothing is more important than slowing the population growth in this country. We need a breathing space, and time to plan to house the bloated population. We have to give ordinary folks some hope. Without hope disaster awaits us.
What is Labour's answer to this crisis? According to Jeremy Corbyn, ever more immigration, with the gates flung open to all. This is what we're dealing with. Politicans blinded by idealism, having a sort of death wish. Anyone speaking out against this madness are called racists and fanatics. Our children brainwashed in schools, and told how wonderful it all is. Our soap operas a sort of opium for the people, showing multiculturalism as a land of plenty and happiness. The truth is very different.
George Orwell wrote, 'if liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people, what they do not want to hear.'
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