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A country with a large trade surplus with the UK breaks from Brussels whodathunkit?
Looks like the shambles I expected.
Everything to do with the EU is a shambles, there are no laws stating that we have to offer any special treatment regarding EU Citizens in the UK, nor is there any requirement to pay anything in payment, however Britain has offered to give EU Citzens who have lived here at least 5 years full citizenship and legal protection via our Supreme Court and EU Laws and have even offered to set up a special tribunal for such people, we have also offered a £20 Billion payment to cover payments for programmes we had joined, but apparently this isn't enough, and we have offered frictionless trade in relation to Northern Ireland.
We can't really offer any more and the EU have not made it clear what they want, although if they expect us to pay them to trade with them when we have a massive £100bn a year trade deficit with them then they are sadly mistaken.
We need to look at as many options involving trade, and NAFTA, CANZUK and other commonwealth countries such as India are a good place to start in terms of trade negotiations.
If the EU doesn't want to negotiate then fine, we will walk away and really should being doing so now, and should tear up a number of agreements with the EU including the Lancaster House Agreement with France and withdraw troops and aircraft from Poland and Estonia.
Everything to do with the EU is a shambles, there are no laws stating that we have to offer any special treatment regarding EU Citizens in the UK, nor is there any requirement to pay anything in payment, however Britain has offered to give EU Citzens who have lived here at least 5 years full citizenship and legal protection via our Supreme Court and EU Laws and have even offered to set up a special tribunal for such people, we have also offered a £20 Billion payment to cover payments for programmes we had joined, but apparently this isn't enough, and we have offered frictionless trade in relation to Northern Ireland.
We can't really offer any more and the EU have not made it clear what they want, although if they expect us to pay them to trade with them when we have a massive £100bn a year trade deficit with them then they are sadly mistaken.
We need to look at as many options involving trade, and NAFTA, CANZUK and other commonwealth countries such as India are a good place to start in terms of trade negotiations.
If the EU doesn't want to negotiate then fine, we will walk away and really should being doing so now, and should tear up a number of agreements with the EU including the Lancaster House Agreement with France and withdraw troops and aircraft from Poland and Estonia.
IIRC the 2 year withdrawal period is a maximum. Nothing that I've read prevents the UK putting in a final agreement of nothing whatsoever revert to WTO and walking away. We can do right by Europeans who chose to live here and contribute, don't need a Brussels agreement for that.
IIRC the 2 year withdrawal period is a maximum. Nothing that I've read prevents the UK putting in a final agreement of nothing whatsoever revert to WTO and walking away. We can do right by Europeans who chose to live here and contribute, don't need a Brussels agreement for that.
Definetly, Scotland will say Guidbye! The Scottish PM was absolutely clear, Scotland will remain a part of the UK only inside of the EU.
What the Scottish First Minister says and what the Scottish people vote for are two different things,as the IndyRef made clear.
As independence isn't even on the agenda at the current SNP national conference I think it's safe to say that Jimmie Krankie has been put back in her box for a while.
Definetly, Scotland will say Guidbye! The Scottish PM was absolutely clear, Scotland will remain a part of the UK only inside of the EU.
1. She is not the Scottish PM but rather the FM.
2. The Scottish people voted to stay with the UK.
3. Brexit appears to have made no difference to the number of people in Scotland wanting independence. Independence is actually less popular rather than more so.
4. A sizable number of SNP members do not want to swap Westminster for Brussels. They really do want independence.
5. Sturgeon has backed off on a second referendum when she realised that the Scottish people don't want one. In her speech yesterday she refused to give a date for one.
3. Brexit appears to have made no difference to the number of people in Scotland wanting independence. Independence is actually less popular rather than more so.
4. A sizable number of SNP members do not want to swap Westminster for Brussels. They really do want independence.
5. Sturgeon has backed off on a second referendum when she realised that the Scottish people don't want one. In her speech yesterday she refused to give a date for one.
The Scots main trading nation is England and not Europe. If the Scots voted for independence and if they were allowed to join the EU (which is a big 'if') they would have to negotiate entry in to the EU under EU terms and any new EU member now has to adopt the Euro, however the Scots don't meet the economic riteria for even aplying for membership.
England & Wales will no doubt retain the pound, whilst new border controls would have to be put in place as the two countries would be different economic areas. Scotland would also have to negotiate a trading agreement with England.
Scotland exports around £70 Billion of which over £50 Billion is to the rest of the UK (mainly England) and exports over £20 Billion (around half or £10 Billion relates to EU exports) to the rest of the world including EU countries. This is a lot more than money generated by oil and gas.
The economy of Scotland is very highly integrated with the economy of the rest of the UK and this includes companies based in Scotland that supply goods and services to the rest of the UK. The Scottish Economy is more intergrated with the UK than it is with the entirety of the EU. Having two seperate currencies could deeply effect Scotlands biggest market and the economy it is most intergrated with.
Scotland has significant representation in Westminster with 59 MP's and a say within the UK, an Independent Scotland would lose all influence in Westminster abd even if it managed to join the EU would only have a mere 6 seats in the European Parliament. I think if anything the Scots have a very good deal the way things stand and that's without even taking in to consideration the Public Service and Defence jobs that would be lost, whilst Scotland currently has the largest budget deficit in the EU and wouldn't even qualify fir EU membership on this criteria alone.
Finally oil and diesel is being phased out in Scotland itself by 2032 and in the UK as a whole by 2040, so that's a sizeable part of the Scottish Economy that will disappear, and a lot of other countries are set to follow suit. As for Scotlands Oil, it's more expensive to extract in the first place with rigs placed in heavy seas, so it will be the first to be hit, whilst shale gas extraction is being banned in Scotland.
The Scots main trading nation is England and not Europe. If the Scots voted for independence and if they were allowed to join the EU (which is a big 'if') they would have to negotiate entry in to the EU under EU terms and any new EU member now has to adopt the Euro, however the Scots don't meet the economic riteria for even aplying for membership.
England & Wales will no doubt retain the pound, whilst new border controls would have to be put in place as the two countries would be different economic areas. Scotland would also have to negotiate a trading agreement with England.
Scotland exports around £70 Billion of which over £50 Billion is to the rest of the UK (mainly England) and exports over £20 Billion (around half or £10 Billion relates to EU exports) to the rest of the world including EU countries. This is a lot more than money generated by oil and gas.
The economy of Scotland is very highly integrated with the economy of the rest of the UK and this includes companies based in Scotland that supply goods and services to the rest of the UK. The Scottish Economy is more intergrated with the UK than it is with the entirety of the EU. Having two seperate currencies could deeply effect Scotlands biggest market and the economy it is most intergrated with.
Scotland has significant representation in Westminster with 59 MP's and a say within the UK, an Independent Scotland would lose all influence in Westminster abd even if it managed to join the EU would only have a mere 6 seats in the European Parliament. I think if anything the Scots have a very good deal the way things stand and that's without even taking in to consideration the Public Service and Defence jobs that would be lost, whilst Scotland currently has the largest budget deficit in the EU and wouldn't even qualify fir EU membership on this criteria alone.
Finally oil and diesel is being phased out in Scotland itself by 2032 and in the UK as a whole by 2040, so that's a sizeable part of the Scottish Economy that will disappear, and a lot of other countries are set to follow suit. As for Scotlands Oil, it's more expensive to extract in the first place with rigs placed in heavy seas, so it will be the first to be hit, whilst shale gas extraction is being banned in Scotland.
Ok you convinced me, I changed my opinion. Most of the Scottish exports are to other parts of the UK so it's useless to make a border between them.
Anyways, that petrol ban is the most stupid thing which I've ever seen. While US & the 3rd world countries are producing most of the world's pollution, why 1st world countries, which care that much about ecology do have to apply such harsh measures? Why your own people has to suffer the idiocy of others? That's off topic for here but yes, seems that a Scottish independence would lead to disadvantages.
Scotland has significant representation in Westminster with 59 MP's and a say within the UK, an Independent Scotland would lose all influence in Westminster abd even if it managed to join the EU would only have a mere 6 seats in the European Parliament. I think if anything the Scots have a very good deal the way things stand and that's without even taking in to consideration the Public Service and Defence jobs that would be lost, whilst Scotland currently has the largest budget deficit in the EU and wouldn't even qualify fir EU membership on this criteria alone.
Should also be noted that in 2016 prior to the GE the SNP held 56 of those seats. But after the election (and Wee Jimmy Krankie flapping her gums) it fell by 21 to 35. The SNP were slaughtered in the election, and Jimmy has been silent on the topic ever since.
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