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I see you're a glass half empty fellow.One of life's pessimists.
I'm quite the opposite -I see a positive Brexit decision unleashing all the investment and potential that has been held back over the past three years.
And an even bigger rush of inward investment.
There may be one or two hiccups along the way but British people are, by their nature, outward looking and entreprenuerial which is why so many foreign companies and countries want to invest here.
You think it's better elsewhere ? Audi has just announced 10,000 job losses in Germany.
Chin up old sport.
Thank you for your support. No I'm not usually a glass half empty person I just cannot see the half full part at the moment. I wish I could.
History is really important lesson to be taught to ensure we don't make the same mistakes and being alive today we have a duty to ensure that the same mistakes our ancestors made are not repeated by our generation.
Yes.
Maybe the lack of education in history in the UK is a major factor for misunderstanding the historical context of the UK and the EU.
While in the UK you only need to take history lessons up until you’re 13 or 14, i.e. you can opt out from history GCSE (or previously O levels) at a rather immature age, in other countries such as Germany history is a compulsory subject until 18.
Yes you're correct, at least in one part, the poll question, thanks for pointing*it out. But as to the percentages, remaining in a very narrow range, that is still a mystery to me. They never go up to say, 70/30 or down to 60/40. It's as if there is a deliberate tit for tat, which is not how polls generally work.
Hey, don’t blame me. I’m just an American who thought of up a potential pitfall in Brexiting and decided to ask the question. I believe in the law of unintended consequences and the poll question reflects that possibility. Anyways, you all seem to be sorting the mess out. Over 6,700 posts in shows that. Maybe I should print these posts out and stick them together in a book for the uninitiated, “Brexit, the unofficial guide.” Might get a shilling or two out of it.
Regardless, happy thanksgiving from America... another great tradition started from our favorite son of Illinois, president Lincoln.
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Well it looks like the clown will get his majority barring a miracle. I'd say 'unbelievable' but bearing Trump in mind maybe not.
So, we'll have another year of failed trade talks with the EU followed by a no deal Brexit (for which I suspect there is no majority for in the country) and trade talks with the US, fraught with pitfalls and fears over the NHS. Johnson is a liar so every time he says it's not on the table no one believes him. Why should they?
Old divisions will be stoked in Ireland and God knows where that will lead.
To add a mere detail, we will have another five years of Tory rule and according to the IFS their manifesto indicates little change.
Apparently people in this country don't care enough about our failing services and are more concerned with getting out on Black Friday and the like to add to the mountain of personal debt that threatens to overwhelm us sooner or later.
Nothing looks good, except to those with the rose tinted glasses.
You are quite correct. Just how much austerity does it require before the population calls time out? Enough is enough. Bring back a fairer country that all can prosper in not just the few.
Britain out of the EU will not of course have the same bargaining power as being in a Union . Good news for countries like The States, probably China and co.
Thing being of course, would the GEC of 08 have happened under a Corbyn government. Surely the financial sector would have ben under a degree of accountability in the form of regulation?
Why is socialism fine to rescue the banks from their recklessness with others money but not good enough to rule the nation in the eyes of many on this forum?
Surely more than enough of neo liberal economic failed politics have been experienced in modern times, to want to put it back in the jar and screw the lid on it tightly?
Of course Corbyn has a lot to live up to. If he fails the ballot box will decide that outcome, again something so many point to on this forum.
You are quite correct. Just how much austerity does it require before the population calls time out? Enough is enough. Bring back a fairer country that all can prosper in not just the few.
Of course Corbyn has a lot to live up to. If he fails the ballot box will decide that outcome, again something so many point to on this forum.
10 years of austerity. Most of those years under a Tory government. Cutbacks everywhere. Local councils constantly getting less each year from central government, ensuring they can do less and less for their people.
Benefits frozen or cut back. Just austerity piled on top of more austerity.
An EU membership vote given to the people in 2016, with over three years of refusal to carry out the result of that vote. Marchers in the hundreds of thousands filling the streets of London, demanding another vote, or even revoking article 50.
The government in disarray, looking like fools. Three Prime Ministers since the 2016 EU vote. A ruling political party a laughing stock.
The opposition should be ready to take over the reigns of government. An election is called, and the opposition Labour party roll out their manifesto. Nationalisation of the Post Office, Water, and Railways. Freebies scattered all around. More money for the NHS, free dental checkups, free college education, 30 hours of free nursery care for 2, 3, and 4 year olds, free broadband for all, higher minimum wage......
Yet, the Tories are well ahead in the polls. The Labour party is trying to rearrange it's campaign, never a good sign of belief in success. Why is this? Why are Labour not heading for a landslide victory?
In 2010 the departing then Labour corner had increased the country's debt and a would be one of their departing MP's left a would-be funny note of how they had reduced the money. With their years in power they did not raise the starting level for taxes on pay and was George Osborne of the Conservatives that brought that in. Later increasing the wages.Just remember that it was not much over £6,000 when taxed back then. The Tories then revised the situation annually and it meant that large numbers of the less well off were keeping more money. The wonderful lefties could not do that and that lot today are a nightmare.
I would also remind MnM258 that this country voted to be out of Europe and that is democracy but what we ended up with in parliament was a mess of a shambles ignoring what the population voted for In turn shambolic MP's creating havoc ignoring the will of the people. Now we have more representations in Westminster than any other time. What with those moving to another party or moving TWICE! Farcical. That wee smart alex the leader of the Scottish Nationalists is a pest. She appears on those inter=party leader confrontations but she is NOT an MP or standing for one! On top of that Scotland has a big debt and she ignores that. And what does she do but ignore the hard truth that Scotland financially depends more on links to the UK economy than the 25% with Europe! In general over my years this has been one of the most farcical General Elections and fed up with all that tv stuff which we never got years ago. Okay we needed to have one but so much nonsense being dished out. My one hope is that Corbyn gets politically slaughtered and that lot try and have a leader who is missing not being Stalin.
I would also remind MnM258 that this country voted to be out of Europe and that is democracy but what we ended up with in parliament was a mess of a shambles ignoring what the population voted for In turn shambolic MP's creating havoc ignoring the will of the people.
False, the situation in Westminster was due to the 2017 GE result. The shambles you mention is very much the will of the people.
False, the situation in Westminster was due to the 2017 GE result. The shambles you mention is very much the will of the people.
Actually the will of the people in 2017 was to vote for both main political parties who promised in their manifestos to enact the result of the referendum.
The fact Labour has refused to do so is why their support has collapsed across Leave voting constituencies.
And those Tory MPs who lied in their election promises have been kicked out by their party or local association.
Welcome to democracy 101 baby.
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