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Old 09-14-2016, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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The same James Dyson who closed his factories in England and move them to China? (yes that overpriced Tyson in your nearest retailer is not build in the UK anymore, it's just another piece of Chinese crap).
Nice! I bet he wants the UK to sever ties with the UE and their stupid standards and sign a free tax trade deal with the dragon.
Dyson moved 560 jobs to Malaysia in 2002 for economic reasons and because of difficulty acquiring land for expansion.

However the company's headquarters and research facilities remain in Malmesbury in Wiltshire and in November 2014, Dyson announced plans to invest a further £1.5bn into the research and development of new technology, including funding for a campus at the Dyson UK headquarters in Malmesbury which will create up to 3,000 jobs.

Dyson's £250m Malmesbury expansion plan approved - BBC News

In pictures: James Dyson's new £250m technology campus - the UK's answer to the Googleplex | City A.M.

Dyson is a large multinational company, in the same respect as many US Companies.

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Old 09-14-2016, 07:12 AM
 
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Dyson moved 560 jobs to Malaysia in 2002 for economic reasons and because of difficulty acquiring land for expansion.

However the company's headquarters and research facilities remain in Malmesbury in Wiltshire and in November 2014, Dyson announced plans to invest a further £1.5bn into the research and development of new technology, including funding for a campus at the Dyson UK headquarters in Malmesbury which will create up to 3,000 jobs.

In pictures: James Dyson's new £250m technology campus - the UK's answer to the Googleplex | City A.M.

Dyson is a large multinational company, in the same respect as many US Companies.
Dyson's request for permission was a lie, he never asked local authorities. Just an excuse to look after his company's economics interest, if you think he is backing Brexit out of patriotism or care for the UK...oh boy!

Btw Dysons are manufactured in China, just through partnerships.
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Old 09-14-2016, 07:16 AM
 
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Dyson's request for permission was a lie, he never asked local authorities. Just an excuse to look after his company's economics interest, if you think he is backing Brexit out of patriotism or care for the UK...oh boy!

Btw Dysons are manufactured in China, just through partnerships.
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Originally Posted by BBC (2002)

Two years ago the company was refused planning permission to expand the plant in Wiltshire.

Negotiations have begun with the workforce and a final decision on the switch has yet to be made, but Mr Dyson has told BBC News Online he could see no alternative.

Dyson has invested £32m in the Malmesbury site in the last two years.


BBC News | ENGLAND | Blair 'disappointed' over Dyson jobs

Wilts worried by Dyson plan to expand into greenfield vacuum | The Independent
Dyson has bee vert critical of the planning process in the past after having a number of schemes turned down including one involving the University of Bath, thankfully his new technology centre now has planning permission.

Dyson wins permission for £250m expansion | Insider Media Ltd



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Old 09-14-2016, 07:45 AM
 
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Really



Dyson has bee vert critical of the planning process in the past after having a number of schemes turned down including one involving the University of Bath, thankfully his new technology centre now has planning permission.

Dyson wins permission for £250m expansion | Insider Media Ltd


You are talking about two different events. The first expansion in the early 2000's. Just after the first expansion he wanted to increase the size of the campus and couldn't because the land was privately owned and he didn't even have to ask for permission until the land purchase, which was unsuccessful but he used as an excuse in front of the unions to move 1000 jobs to Asia.
Second event is now in 2014 with his R&D expansion (those Chinese are just copying his design without license so no way he would send his IP to Asia).
In any case he is campaigning for Brexit looking out for his company's shareholders interests, nothing else.
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Old 09-14-2016, 07:56 AM
 
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You are talking about two different events. The first expansion in the early 2000's. Just after the first expansion he wanted to increase the size of the campus and couldn't because the land was privately owned and he didn't even have to ask for permission until the land purchase, which was unsuccessful but he used as an excuse in front of the unions to move 1000 jobs to Asia.
Second event is now in 2014 with his R&D expansion (those Chinese are just copying his design without license so no way he would send his IP to Asia).
In any case he is campaigning for Brexit looking out for his company's shareholders interests, nothing else.
No he didn't, he wanted to expand the factory in 2000 but expansion plans were rejected, if the plans are rejected there is very little you can do, beyond the appeals process which he no doubt Dysons lawyers went through.

Dyson then moved the vacum cleaner operation to Malaysia, although I don't see the problem with this, as most technology firms including US Companies such as Apple assemble goods in the Far East, as do lots of multi-national companies. Other Dyson research, technology and production stayed in the UK.

In terms of the R&D Facility I made it perfectly clear that the plans related to 2014 and that Dyson now have planning permission and that the new venture will create over 3,000 jobs.

Lots of large companies are multi-national, and Dyson sells products across the globe, and indeed has offices and factories in other parts of the world.

So what.........
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Old 09-14-2016, 08:16 AM
 
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Lots of large companies are multi-national, and Dyson sells products across the globe, and indeed has offices and factories in other parts of the world.

So what.........


My goodness you're thick! So his interest on Brexit is not out of patriotism or thinking about anyone's else interests but his own! If you think the type of trade deal he wants with China is good for the UK...it will be good for his pocket.
Dont you think Siemens wouldn't like to have a sweet deal with China? I bet you but the EU cuts those dreams off if it means it will only benefit the big companies. EU is quite sharp about trade deals, they just rejected current TIPP for a reason! They didn't want to have the same issues than the NAFTA created in the US and Canada.
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Old 09-14-2016, 08:40 AM
 
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My goodness you're thick! So his interest on Brexit is not out of patriotism or thinking about anyone's else interests but his own! If you think the type of trade deal he wants with China is good for the UK...it will be good for his pocket.
His comments on Brexit are his own, however he does point out the fact that the EU has a £100 Billion surplus with the UK, which is a fact, he's also a major manufacturer who sells in the EU and across the world, therefore is in a better position than most to comment on the impact of Brexit.

As for deals with China, nothing was mentioned in the BBC Article I posted regarding any deals with China, all Dyson has said is that leaving the EU gives us more freedom and liberates us as a Trading Nation, a view that he is more than entitled to hold.

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Dont you think Siemens wouldn't like to have a sweet deal with China? I bet you but the EU cuts those dreams off if it means it will only benefit the big companies. EU is quite sharp about trade deals, they just rejected current TIPP for a reason! They didn't want to have the same issues than the NAFTA created in the US and Canada.
The EU isn't sharp on Trade Deals it just can't make them meaning it has to revert to WTO Rules, meaning EU Goods and Services are more expensive in the US as they are subject to WTO Tariffs, the very type of Tariffs that Dyson talks about in the BBC Article.

TTIP is a mess, and is nothing to be proud of, indeed the EU can't make a deal due to French Protectionism in relation to Agriculture, then again this has always been the case under the Common Agricultural Policy. Whilst the EU has no trade deal with China or India, and very few Trade Deals globally full stop. Then again between 2010 and 2014, the EU grew more slowly than any geographical continent bar Antarctica, and also more slowly than the continent of Europe as a whole thanks to it's sharp trading deals.

Fact check: 'Only Antarctica has a slower growth rate than the EU' - ITV News

As for big companies, if anything the EU panders to them, as they are much more likely to be able to meet EU Regulations and suppress smaller competition.

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Big business loves the EU because it is the font of regulations which help to suppress smaller competitors.

When the EU introduces a new licensing scheme, a new set of product description regulations or employments laws it makes life a little more difficult for big business.

But it makes life a hell of lot more difficult for small businesses, who have fewer lawyers and officers on hand to grapple with the consequences.

Even better still, the backdoor method by which the European Commission dreams up regulations favours big business as it can afford the lobbying resources to steer regulations in its direction. By the time small businesses find out what is going on it is often too late.

Big business backing the 'In' campaign shows us what's wrong with the EU | Coffee House

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Old 09-14-2016, 09:34 AM
 
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I'm not sure why there is all this discussion about trade treaties between Britain and the USA. Britain and the USA already have a very busy exchange of goods and there is absolutely no reason for any of that to change. There is no reason to expect brand new trade agreements to be written.

Some of you seem to think that the door is going to slam shut.
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Old 09-14-2016, 09:47 AM
 
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I'm not sure why there is all this discussion about trade treaties between Britain and the USA. Britain and the USA already have a very busy exchange of goods and there is absolutely no reason for any of that to change. There is no reason to expect brand new trade agreements to be written.

Some of you seem to think that the door is going to slam shut.
If that trade is under the EU agreements, then yes UK will have to renegotiate with the USA, until that new agreement was reach, trade conditions would fall under WTO conditions.
Door won't shut it will be more expensive, at least for a while. And a lot of the financial services currently provided by firms in London won't exist anymore if the UK doesn't keep the passporting rights.
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Old 09-14-2016, 09:54 AM
 
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If that trade is under the EU agreements, then yes UK will have to renegotiate with the USA, until that new agreement was reach, trade conditions would fall under WTO conditions.
Door won't shut it will be more expensive, at least for a while. And a lot of the financial services currently provided by firms in London won't exist anymore if the UK doesn't keep the passporting rights.
Trade already falls under WTO Agreements as the EU doesn't have a Trade Agreement with the US, and TTIP looks like it's going to collapse.

The UK can just keep on Trading as per normal with the US and most nations as the EU has established very few trading agreements.
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