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Old 01-12-2021, 12:46 PM
 
Location: SE UK
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Originally Posted by Rafius View Post
...because I still have friends and family there that are going to suffer.


I'd still love to know what laws the EU passed on the UK that you disagree with?
You mean they are going to 'prosper' surely!

Here:-

https://www.counselmagazine.co.uk/ar...us-post-brexit

Knock yourself out.
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Old 01-12-2021, 02:20 PM
 
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You mean they are going to 'prosper' surely!

Here:-

https://www.counselmagazine.co.uk/ar...us-post-brexit

Knock yourself out.
Your link is from October 2017.

Like in the Euro thread you've posted something that has no meat. You seem to be in the business of creating fog. Your link didn't identify a single law, let alone a specific one that would answer Rafius' question.
I read the link, and pulled this excerpt.

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It is therefore difficult to see any credible basis on which a UK court might, whether before or after 29 March 2019, purport to make inconsistent rulings on points of EU law, any more than it could make rulings on points of US law that differed from valid judgments of the US Supreme Court, or rulings on the interpretation of the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) that differed from those of the European Court of Human Rights.

The political difficulty that arises is that the Withdrawal Bill, as a matter of practical necessity, incorporates the entire corpus of EU law into UK law, so that the meaning and application of EU law will remain of great importance to many legal issues arising before the UK courts for the indefinite future.
The UK is free from future EU law, but stuck with past law.
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Old 01-12-2021, 02:54 PM
 
Location: SE UK
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Your link is from October 2017.

Like in the Euro thread you've posted something that has no meat. You seem to be in the business of creating fog. Your link didn't identify a single law, let alone a specific one that would answer Rafius' question.
I read the link, and pulled this excerpt.


The UK is free from future EU law, but stuck with past law.
You mean 'stuck with making its own laws' right? And if we don't like what they're doing we are free to vote them out, it's called Democracy, Democracy is THE most important aspect for any society
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Old 01-13-2021, 01:35 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Originally Posted by easthome View Post
You mean they are going to 'prosper' surely!

Here:-

https://www.counselmagazine.co.uk/ar...us-post-brexit

Knock yourself out.
...and still you avoid the question which was quite specific.

Again: What laws have been 'forced' on the UK by the EU that you disagree with? Give me 3 laws passed by the EU on the UK that you feel has been detrimental to the UK.


When I initially asked you the question, your answer was 'Schengen', which only proves that you are clearly confused because...


1. Schengen isn't a 'law'.
2. The UK was not a signatory of Schengen, so anything that was connected to Schengen did not apply to the UK.
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Old 01-13-2021, 01:38 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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The UK is free from future EU law, but stuck with past law.
Similar to the way in which the UK is stuck with the same rules and regulations for trade with the EU that it had before it left the EU but now, without a say in making the rules and regulations. Ah! The sunny uplands eh!
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Old 01-13-2021, 01:48 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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You mean they are going to 'prosper' surely!
Hardly. Two of them have lost their jobs because their employers have transferred the business out of the UK.
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Old 01-13-2021, 01:56 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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The UK has a decent deal with the EU.
Brexiteers and Boris seem to be the only ones that would agree with you. Two economists I was listening to on Radio 4 were saying that a no deal would have reduced GDP by 6%. Boris' deal will see a 4% drop. Brilliant eh?
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Old 01-13-2021, 04:09 AM
 
Location: Itinerant
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...and still you avoid the question which was quite specific.

Again: What laws have been 'forced' on the UK by the EU that you disagree with? Give me 3 laws passed by the EU on the UK that you feel has been detrimental to the UK.


When I initially asked you the question, your answer was 'Schengen', which only proves that you are clearly confused because...


1. Schengen isn't a 'law'.
2. The UK was not a signatory of Schengen, so anything that was connected to Schengen did not apply to the UK.
Bendy bananas.

Not being able to eliminate feminine hygiene product taxes (because the EU law would not permit eliminating taxes on products that had VAT/Sales taxes after a certain date)

Elimination of using Imperial measures.

Banning mineral water producers from claiming drinking water can prevent dehydration, because apparently there's no scientific evidence it does so.

Oh and let's not forget fishing quotas that are demonstrably ineffective for fish stock maintenance, but they were created with that express intent.

Then there's the whole EU initiatives for things, sure it makes sense to spend money (ours and European taxpayers) for initiatives that have tangible benefits or reduced costs, but some was just insane spending for no benefit, and no we didn't have a say in that spending.
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Old 01-13-2021, 05:03 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Bendy bananas.

Not being able to eliminate feminine hygiene product taxes (because the EU law would not permit eliminating taxes on products that had VAT/Sales taxes after a certain date)

Elimination of using Imperial measures.

Banning mineral water producers from claiming drinking water can prevent dehydration, because apparently there's no scientific evidence it does so.

Oh and let's not forget fishing quotas that are demonstrably ineffective for fish stock maintenance, but they were created with that express intent.

Then there's the whole EU initiatives for things, sure it makes sense to spend money (ours and European taxpayers) for initiatives that have tangible benefits or reduced costs, but some was just insane spending for no benefit, and no we didn't have a say in that spending.
Do you honestly believe that bendy bananas and Tampax was a good enough reason for leaving the EU??


As for not being able to use Imperial measures. You couldn't scream 'Rule Britannia' any louder if you tried. The UK joined the EU and was allowed to keep it's currency, which no other member was allowed to do and now you complain about weights and measures! British exceptionalism at it's best.



Fishing is 0.01 of UK GDP. It's infinitesimal - and even fishermen are saying that the deal is rubbish.


So you think that tax on Tampax, bendy bananas, weights and measures and advertising on water bottles were good enough reason enough to leave the EU against..amongst others...


Freedom of Movement between 27 EU countries
Working time Directive
Temporary Agency Workers Directive
Common Fisheries Policy
Climate and Energy Package
Renewables Directive
Cleanliness of Water
Clean Beaches
3.1 million UK jobs linked to the EU
Consumer protection laws
EU Research Funding.




https://www.ft.com/content/202a60c0-...d-09f7778e7377
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a6850626.html
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Old 01-13-2021, 06:12 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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...and still you avoid the question which was quite specific.

Again: What laws have been 'forced' on the UK by the EU that you disagree with? Give me 3 laws passed by the EU on the UK that you feel has been detrimental to the UK.


When I initially asked you the question, your answer was 'Schengen', which only proves that you are clearly confused because...


1. Schengen isn't a 'law'.
2. The UK was not a signatory of Schengen, so anything that was connected to Schengen did not apply to the UK.
Any feckin law! ALL law, the UK can now make any bloody law it wants, human rights, working conditions, etc etc did you not read the attachment!? If we want to make a law that says all Spaniards must now bow down to a picture of the queen when entering the country we can, you name it we are free to vote on it, the UK WAS subject to the freedom of travel to all in Europe whether a con man from Poland, a rapist from Spain or a terrorist from Tunisia that was let in to Germany by Merkel on 'compassionate' grounds, not any more, now we welcome decent people based on a points system, perhaps the knife wielding Jihadists can f*ck off to Spain instead.
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