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Sounds like a “light” version of the EU to me. Everything you mention, except freedom of movement, is being done now without the added bureaucracy of CANZAK. Any such formal organization also implies possible compromise e.g. in national decisions regarding foreign policy. Not appealing.
I think what the Biden administration does in the next two years when seeking international cooperation on various subjects, particularly in respect to China, will determine what alliances are formed.
I assume CANZUK will exclude freedom of movement if the agreement is ever brought forward seriously, seeing as 51.9% of the British public voted to end freedom of movement.
...unlike Spain we DONT have 25% of our young people unemployed...
Nor does Spain. They may be registered unemployed but they aren't.
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For your information we are no longer in the EU and I'm sure youre disappointed to hear this but I am NOT starving,
Did you expect to be after only 14 days.
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there is NO shortages in the supermarket,
There is if you live in N.Ireland
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...the pound has NOT crashed,
It's worth €1.09 from €1.33
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PS. I might book my next holiday to Spain and spend my day sitting in the bar drinking beer and spend my nights puking over Spanish pavements, it will keep a few Spaniards in employment .....
Nor does Spain. They may be registered unemployed but they aren't.
Did you expect to be after only 14 days.
There is if you live in N.Ireland
It's worth €1.09 from €1.33
There it is right there folks.
Troll much.
According to Andrew Opie, director of the British Retail Consortium supply problems for NI supermarkets are being overcome.
Mr Opie told Mp's today that current supply problems were an "inevitable consequence" of the lateness in finalising the new trade arrangements.
You are going on and on about temporary problems at a time when we have customs officers and transport workers already stretched due to Covid.
The UK is not even reliant on the EU for most of it's food, indeed the UK Government statistics in 2018 showed that the UK is approximately 61% self-sufficient in all foods and 75% in “indigenous type food” , with a further 15 to 20% coming from across the world, and less than a quarter from the EU. So well over 75% of the UK's food does not come from the EU, and as we make more trade deals this will become even less.
Whilst there is also a campaign to increase the percentage of home grown food, and this is even more important post Brexit, with the UK Government planing new legislation.
In terms of fruit and salad vegetables vast new greenhouses such as Thanet Earth in Kent have been constructed over recent decades, indeed Thanet is now responsible for 75% of the UK's total capacity of lit tomatoes and also produces a host of other salad vegetables.
The UK doesn't rely on the EU for meat or vegetables or fruit, and the quarter it does get from the EU will gradually be eroded via new trade deals throughout the world.
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Troll much.
According to Andrew Opie, director of the British Retail Consortium supply problems for NI supermarkets are being overcome.
Mr Opie told Mp's today that current supply problems were an "inevitable consequence" of the lateness in finalising the new trade arrangements.
You are going on and on about temporary problems at a time when we have customs officers and transport workers already stretched due to Covid.
The UK is not even reliant on the EU for most of it's food, indeed the UK Government statistics in 2018 showed that the UK is approximately 61% self-sufficient in all foods and 75% in “indigenous type food” , with a further 15 to 20% coming from across the world, and less than a quarter from the EU. So well over 75% of the UK's food does not come from the EU, and as we make more trade deals this will become even less.
Whilst there is also a campaign to increase the percentage of home grown food, and this is even more important post Brexit, with the UK Government planing new legislation.
In terms of fruit and salad vegetables vast new greenhouses such as Thanet Earth in Kent have been constructed over recent decades, indeed Thanet is now responsible for 75% of the UK's total capacity of lit tomatoes and also produces a host of other salad vegetables.
The UK doesn't rely on the EU for meat or vegetables or fruit, and the quarter it does get from the EU will gradually be eroded via new trade deals throughout the world.
Brave New World, while looking at your chart I couldn't help but wonder if the trade imbalance with Spain contains a lot of olives, citrus, coconuts, etc. that would be unreasonable to grow in greenhouses. They can be sourced elsewhere, in a way that might even be cheaper, retail.
As for food, as it stands now ASDA.. is owned by Walmart, Aldi is in 36 states, and Lidl is in most of the east coast states. Aldi and Lidl have their tentacles out in North America for food sources. If push comes to shove, they can bring in certain foods without resorting to the EU.
If a trade deal is struck with Canada, expect that you'll be seeing quite a few Canadian items, especially in those 3 chains.
Brave New World, while looking at your chart I couldn't help but wonder if the trade imbalance with Spain contains a lot of olives, citrus, coconuts, etc. that would be unreasonable to grow in greenhouses. They can be sourced elsewhere, in a way that might even be cheaper, retail.
As for food, as it stands now ASDA.. is owned by Walmart, Aldi is in 36 states, and Lidl is in most of the east coast states. Aldi and Lidl have their tentacles out in North America for food sources. If push comes to shove, they can bring in certain foods without resorting to the EU.
If a trade deal is struck with Canada, expect that you'll be seeing quite a few Canadian items, especially in those 3 chains.
Whatever about the fish, the fishers are not happy. Prices in Peterhead dropped 80%. Fish strangled in red tape. Maybe the fishers will have Moggy sleep with the fishes.....
I hear also, the euros are confiscating hang sammiches from UK truckers.
Whilst there is also a campaign to increase the percentage of home grown food, and this is even more important post Brexit, with the UK Government planing new legislation.
In terms of fruit and salad vegetables vast new greenhouses such as Thanet Earth in Kent have been constructed over recent decades, indeed Thanet is now responsible for 75% of the UK's total capacity of lit tomatoes and also produces a host of other salad vegetables.
Whatever about the fish, the fishers are not happy. Prices in Peterhead dropped 80%. Fish strangled in red tape. Maybe the fishers will have Moggy sleep with the fishes......
Most of the Scottish fleet are tied up because it's not worth going to sea. Still, teething problems I expect!
Brave New World, while looking at your chart I couldn't help but wonder if the trade imbalance with Spain contains a lot of olives, citrus, coconuts, etc. that would be unreasonable to grow in greenhouses. They can be sourced elsewhere, in a way that might even be cheaper, retail.
Spain primarily export machinery, electrical equipment and vehicles to the UK. Fruits, nuts and other edibles are actually kinda low on the list. Would be a shame for Spanish farmers to lose the UK market, and of course for British consumers.
I assume CANZUK will exclude freedom of movement if the agreement is ever brought forward seriously, seeing as 51.9% of the British public voted to end freedom of movement.
Not this 'old chestnut' again! 51.9% didn't vote to end the freedom of movement! 51.9% voted for control over their own borders! There is a MASSIVE difference.
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