Inslee/ L&I to require all businesses to have all employees vaxed. (Republic: buying, calculation)

[MechAndy]

I know quite a few people that have had the covid virus including me.
Due to my work it is a pretty large number.
I am not aware of any severe effects from the virus.
I am however aware of serious side effects from the vaccine.
Several of my associates and even I had a rough time with it.

I know that if you are already unhealthy you can have severe symptoms including death.
That doesn’t include the people that would have died from other things that were conveniently labeled “Covid-19 death”.

After near 2 years of this mess I do not see a scientific study.
I can’t believe I had to type that but it is true.
You can’t be leaving out important information on a scientific study because it doesn’t meet your agenda.

So here we are 2 years in and we can’t even achieve an honest scientific study .
We should be ashamed of ourselves.

[flyingsaucermom]

Originally Posted by MechAndy

I know quite a few people that have had the covid virus including me.
Due to my work it is a pretty large number.
I am not aware of any severe effects from the virus.
I am however aware of serious side effects from the vaccine.
Several of my associates and even I had a rough time with it.

I know that if you are already unhealthy you can have severe symptoms including death.
That doesn’t include the people that would have died from other things that were conveniently labeled “Covid-19 death”.

After near 2 years of this mess I do not see a scientific study.
I can’t believe I had to type that but it is true.
You can’t be leaving out important information on a scientific study because it doesn’t meet your agenda.

So here we are 2 years in and we can’t even achieve an honest scientific study .
We should be ashamed of ourselves.

Unless it's by design... I was listening to the Dori Monson show just now. Something regarding 2024 and vaccines and Inslee got my attention so I did a google search:

[url]https://mynorthwest.com/3189888/dori-inslee-covid-vaccine-2024/[/url]

[MechAndy]

With the fools I see blindly following the leader and parroting snippets of biased info I can see how he would think that this might work.

[Arcos]

Originally Posted by MechAndy

I am not aware of any severe effects from the virus.
I am however aware of serious side effects from the vaccine.
Several of my associates and even I had a rough time with it.


After near 2 years of this mess I do not see a scientific study.
I can’t believe I had to type that but it is true.
You can’t be leaving out important information on a scientific study because it doesn’t meet your agenda.

I presume I will be ignored but may I ask what you mean by no severe effects from the virus?

Also, can you point me to any scientific studies you have read? Or even news articles about those studies, and the deficiencies?

What information are they leaving out?

Here’s a short news article:
https://www.news-medical.net/amp/new...in-Israel.aspx

Here’s the study it refers to (at the end of the article)

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...91v1.full-text

This is what I read, and it informs my questions and doubts about the vaccines. Do you think this is flawed work, and how?

[Arcos]

Originally Posted by flyingsaucermom

Unless it's by design... I was listening to the Dori Monson show just now. Something regarding 2024 and vaccines and Inslee got my attention so I did a google search:

https://mynorthwest.com/3189888/dori...-vaccine-2024/

I’m sure we will need boosters for years. I doubt we’ll need vaccine mandates and certificates past when they are medically necessary. As you know, they’re very unpopular and easy prey for any politician running for election.

Most places in Europe that had far stricter mandates relaxed them as Covid numbers went down or as the population reached 90%.

Hopefully, Covid doesn’t mutate too much and cause another spike in deaths. That may change the need for further vaccine mandates.

[MechAndy]

No I don’t mind answering your questions Arcos.

By no severe effects that I am talking about not knowing any people that have been hospitalized and hooked up to a ventilator.
I have not met or heard of a friend of a friend that was healthy that fell on deaths door just from this virus.
Not even old people like me.
The people that I do know that have had the virus had cold symptoms.
These symptoms varied from mild to a 3 week lingering of respiratory issues.

I don’t take back what I said about “no honest scientific studies” because all of the inconsistencies.
These inconsistencies are partially because they are learning more and more about this virus and I understand and accept that.
What makes me not believe in the science of it is all that is omitted and all that is bent to further an agenda.
Like why do certain unions get exemptions while others lose their income.
More than one leader based this on which union donated the most money.

I could make a long list of inconsistencies that are politically based but that’s not my gig.
I’m not here to throw political stones.

These inconsistencies and omissions are what makes people distrustful.
As far as my reading I have read and listened to a lot of views.
I am not one to believe all that I read but if I see several people making the same claims it starts raising my awareness and my pursuit of learning more.

Other than the forced mandates and a few “minor” issues we probably share some similar views.
Well maybe .

[Arcos]

Unfortunately I know someone (my cousin, 40 years, smoker) that had pneumonia and needed oxygen. And relatives of a coworker who died.

[MechAndy]

Sorry to hear that Arcos.

I have lost a few people as well this last year and a half or so.
They all had other things going on.

[eqttrdr]

WA state doing vaxx passports this month?

[MechAndy]

We have to show our papers for dining and a few other activities like the gym I believe.
That’s been going on for a while though.

What I would like to see is this policy implemented for all social things like grocery shopping, getting gasoline and walking down the road.

No I am not joking.
I think putting it all out there will show these mandates for what they are.