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Old 03-17-2018, 02:02 PM
 
Location: South Padre Island, TX
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Unlike our Rockies, the Alps have a mainly east west orientation.
Not really protecting western europe that much.

Alps probably help the French Riviera a bit.
In the case of Western Europe, there is an ocean to the north to mitigate whatever cold comes from the Arctic.
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Old 03-17-2018, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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Unlike our Rockies, the Alps have a mainly east west orientation.
Not really protecting western europe that much.

Alps probably help the French Riviera a bit.
The mountains in the Balkans protect the Adriatic Coast and Italy. The alps protect Italy. The Pyrenees protect Spain.
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Old 03-17-2018, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Near Tours, France about 47°10'N 0°25'E
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The Alps.
How cand the alps could be avle to protect western european facade from eastern cold winds... the british isles are wide open to the russian plains trhough north sea and the nortn european plain...



Such wind can happen without any problem, no montain range at all stops anything. This is exactly what is happening now. The only reason why it usually doesn’t happen often is because dominant wind are from the mild atlantic...
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Old 03-17-2018, 04:45 PM
 
Location: South Padre Island, TX
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How cand the alps could be avle to protect western european facade from eastern cold winds... the british isles are wide open to the russian plains trhough north sea and the nortn european plain...



Such wind can happen without any problem, no montain range at all stops anything. This is exactly what is happening now. The only reason why it usually doesn’t happen often is because dominant wind are from the mild atlantic...
The Alps are just one mountain range there. As another poster mentioned, there are also the Pyrenees and the Balkans to cover other places not protected by the Alps.

The UK, and other parts of Western Europe not protected by mountains still have water to the north, meaning no land for sustained cold to build up.
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Old 03-17-2018, 11:09 PM
 
Location: In transition
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Comodoro Rivadavia is on the east coast of South America and is very mild in the winter for its latitude, just compare it with Montreal at the same latitude. It is also a bit milder in the winter than the west coast of South America. The east cold-west warm rule doesn't always ring true.
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Old 03-17-2018, 11:50 PM
 
Location: Seattle area
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South America barely has land in the south. It has water on both sides.
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Old 03-18-2018, 12:13 AM
 
Location: South Padre Island, TX
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South America barely has land in the south. It has water on both sides.
That's the point! The east vs west means nothing as long as there is moderating geography for both sides.

The North American west coast would be getting blast after blast of deep Arctic air with each of those Pacific disturbances that sweep through, if it wasn't for the numerous mountain chains over there.
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Old 03-18-2018, 12:48 AM
 
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South America barely has land in the south. It has water on both sides.
Yes but that has more to do with the size of the landmass than whether a place is on the east or west side.
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Old 03-18-2018, 04:01 AM
 
Location: Near Tours, France about 47°10'N 0°25'E
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The Alps are just one mountain range there. As another poster mentioned, there are also the Pyrenees and the Balkans to cover other places not protected by the Alps.

The UK, and other parts of Western Europe not protected by mountains still have water to the north, meaning no land for sustained cold to build up.
You seem do not know much European climates. The pirennees asolutetly do not protect from cold snaps. this is actually quite the inverse... the pirenees and cantabrian mountains actually tend to stop the mildness from the Atlantic to penetrate the inside of land. If you go to northern Spain you will notice that a city like Santander is much milder than Leon or Burgos... because it has oceanic influence that is precisely stopped by the mountains...

The same way, the balkan mountain tend to stop the mediterranean influence to penetrate the inside of the balkan peninsula rather than the reverse.
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Old 03-18-2018, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Central New Jersey & British Columbia
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Those prevailing winds only bring low pressure systems.
No, the westerly winds bring mild air off the oceans. The importance of any mountains to the east "blocking" cold air is entirely secondary and of much less importance than the flow of air masses off the ocean.
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