Climate battle: Europe vs. United States (Minneapolis, Georgia, elevation, area)
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They don'the have the benefit of almost guaranteed dryness when you're hitting the beach, they don't have the benefit of low humidity to stop you from feeling sticky and uncomfortable in high temperatures, and a significant proportion of them can be borderline extreme at certain times of year.
The dryness is present for long enough in the day to get a decent beach fix; just go to the beach in the early morning and/or evening hours, and you will have guaranteed chance for dryness much of the time.
Whenever a humid subtropcial climate sees temps in the upper 90s/low 100s, it always is accompanied by drier air, so the heat indices will end up about the same (or even lower) than during the more humid days.
As far as "extremes in certain times of the year," many Med climates see that as well.
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The US mediterranean climates are very peculiar though. Also, agriculture is thriving in most mediterranean climates. In Italy many climates like this receive 1,000 mm of rain in a given year. Have you looked at Rome or Naples ? They're hardly dry climates overall.
Drought can be an issue some years, but I don't find it worse than blizzards (which can occur more easily in Atlanta than say, Spain, where they basically never happen) or hurricanes (which do not exist in Europe).
I still prefer mediterranean climates, except for the cool Csb ones.
It doesn't matter what the Med climate is, they will always pale in comparison to humid subtropical climates in terms of agricultural ability. Europe's Med climates may be wetter than those in the US, but even they are still to dry in the heat of summer, a time when rainfall matters most. Rome only gets 31 inches (800mm) of rainfall annually, which is pretty dry.
Blizzards aren't a real worry even in the most inland/cold-prone areas of the US subtropics, and for other subtropical climates. Hurricanes are just glorified storms; you get lots of prep over days/weeks that ensures damage is minimized, and, at the end of the day, you get time for Netflix and chill, and plentiful rain for the crops.
It doesn't matter what the Med climate is, they will always pale in comparison to humid subtropical climates in terms of agricultural ability. Europe's Med climates may be wetter than those in the US, but even they are still to dry in the heat of summer, a time when rainfall matters most. Rome only gets 31 inches (800mm) of rainfall annually, which is pretty dry.
Blizzards aren't a real worry even in the most inland/cold-prone areas of the US subtropics, and for other subtropical climates. Hurricanes are just glorified storms; you get lots of prep over days/weeks that ensures damage is minimized, and, at the end of the day, you get time for Netflix and chill, and plentiful rain for the crops.
You seem to forget that the mediterranean was the birth of civilization in Europe and that many plants thrive there. Sicily was full of corn and has still many green areas.
You subtropical guys in the US seem to always paint the mediterranean as a lifeless desert. There's quite a difference between Rome (which is wetter than a large part of Europe by the way and gets quite a few thunderstorms) and the Sahara. It's not like there is no agricultural viability, and anyway on most years it never goes below -5c. I'd say it's a pretty good place for agriculture, especially fruits.
You seem to forget that the mediterranean was the birth of civilization in Europe and that many plants thrive there. Sicily was full of corn and has still many green areas.
You subtropical guys in the US seem to always paint the mediterranean as a lifeless desert. There's quite a difference between Rome (which is wetter than a large part of Europe by the way and gets quite a few thunderstorms) and the Sahara. It's not like there is no agricultural viability, and anyway on most years it never goes below -5c. I'd say it's a pretty good place for agriculture, especially fruits.
Also tons of agriculture in the Po Valley in northen Italy, which I think is
considered to be humid subtropical, near where you live.
You seem to forget that the mediterranean was the birth of civilization in Europe and that many plants thrive there. Sicily was full of corn and has still many green areas.
You subtropical guys in the US seem to always paint the mediterranean as a lifeless desert. There's quite a difference between Rome (which is wetter than a large part of Europe by the way and gets quite a few thunderstorms) and the Sahara. It's not like there is no agricultural viability, and anyway on most years it never goes below -5c. I'd say it's a pretty good place for agriculture, especially fruits.
Exactly, the most productive areas of the Roman Empire, in terms of agriculture, were areas such as Sicily and North Africa, within typical Med climate zones.
The dryness is present for long enough in the day to get a decent beach fix; just go to the beach in the early morning and/or evening hours, and you will have guaranteed chance for dryness much of the time.
Whenever a humid subtropcial climate sees temps in the upper 90s/low 100s, it always is accompanied by drier air, so the heat indices will end up about the same (or even lower) than during the more humid days.
As far as "extremes in certain times of the year," many Med climates see that as well.
But in general, extreme Med temperatures are less common than extreme Humid Continental temperatures. Most Med climates are comfortable, but there's some truly awful HC out there.
Some perspective. One the one hand, much of Europe is just too far north to see good summers temps. On the other, the impact of the Atlantic keeps much of it milder than Canada at the same latitude. On the flipside, Chicago is at the latitude of northern Greece, and we get MUCH colder in the winter. NYC is further south than Rome as well... Key West would be in southern Egypt. South Texas in southern Libya.
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