Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Daily maximums are very similar i'm sorry. Just compare the data on wikipedia. Daily minimum are higher that's true due to the humidity. But the difference is not very important. Annual temperature is a few higher in Toulouse and growing season is similar: 7 months. None of this two cities are subtropical and even not warm temperate. If we considerer New York subtropical, most of Southern France fall in this category too. Nobody here in Toulouse say that the climate is subtropical. Dormancy period reach 5 months and even more with drought summers. It's close to be warm subtropical why not but subtropical ?
Brisbane, Durban, Sao Paulo, Houston or Hong Kong are subtropical without a doubt, there is no dormancy for trees and they are situated at low latitudes. A city who know -25°C in winter can't be subtropical because evergreen trees can't support this. A subtropical area is covered by evergreen trees like live oak. Do we see live oak, gators or spanish moose in New York? No, so that can't be subtropical just because the summers are warm. The biome is just totally different.
Why isn't Toulouse warm temperate? Summer is warm, and winter is mild. I'm sure they have lots of broadleaf evergreen foliage growing there.
Daily maximums are very similar i'm sorry. Just compare the data on wikipedia. Daily minimum are higher that's true due to the humidity. But the difference is not very important. Annual temperature is a few higher in Toulouse and growing season is similar: 7 months. None of this two cities are subtropical and even not warm temperate. If we considerer New York subtropical, most of Southern France fall in this category too. Nobody here in Toulouse say that the climate is subtropical. Dormancy period reach 5 months and even more with drought summers. It's close to be warm subtropical why not but subtropical ?
Brisbane, Durban, Sao Paulo, Houston or Hong Kong are subtropical without a doubt, there is no dormancy for trees and they are situated at low latitudes. A city who know -25°C in winter can't be subtropical because evergreen trees can't support this. A subtropical area is covered by evergreen trees like live oak. Do we see live oak, gators or spanish moose in New York? No, so that can't be subtropical just because the summers are warm. The biome is just totally different.
Daily maximum is not the decisive feature in the climate.
For example, in July Shanghai has an average high (1981-2010) of 32.2°C but an average low of 25.8°C, therefore the mean is 29.0°C and it's feel extremely different than a place with 32°C but 24°C mean.
NYC is warmer than Perpignan in ALL summer months and the humidity in NYC fell it warmer to much warmer.
NYC is MUCH more hot than Toulouse in summer months, it's not very comparable.
A July with a mean of 22.0°C (Toulouse) feel very different than a July with a mean of 24.9°C-25.4°C (New York City) besides the humidity.
You should stop comparing the summer of Toulouse to those of New York City because Toulouse summer is pale in comparison to New York City summer.
July 1981-2010 averages for :
New York City (Central Park)
Average high : 29.4°C Average : 24.9°C Average low : 20.5°C
Newark
Average high : 30.3°C Average : 25.5°C Average low : 20.7°C
New York City (La Guardia)
Average high : 29.5°C Average : 25.4°C Average low : 21.2°C
Perpignan
Average high : 29.2°C Average : 24.3°C Average low : 19.4°C
Toulouse
Average high : 28.0°C Average : 22.0°C Average low : 16.5°C
Last edited by Hartfordd; 03-20-2014 at 02:55 PM..
Daily maximum is not the decisive feature in the climate.
For example, in July Shanghai has an average high (1981-2010) of 32.2°C but an average low of 25.8°C, therefore the mean is 29.0°C and it's feel extremely different than a place with 32°C but 24°C mean.
NYC is warmer than Perpignan in ALL summer months and the humidity in NYC fell it warmer to much warmer.
NYC is MUCH more hot than Toulouse in summer months, it's not very comparable.
A July with a mean of 22.0°C (Toulouse) feel very different than a July with a mean of 24.9°C-25.4°C (New York City) besides the humidity.
You should stop comparing the summer of Toulouse to those of New York City because Toulouse summer is pale in comparison to New York City summer.
July 1981-2010 averages for :
New York City (Central Park)
Average high : 29.4°C Average : 24.9°C Average low : 20.5°C
Newark
Average high : 30.3°C Average : 25.5°C Average low : 20.7°C
New York City (La Guardia)
Average high : 29.5°C Average : 25.4°C Average low : 21.2°C
Perpignan
Average high : 29.2°C Average : 24.3°C Average low : 19.4°C
Toulouse
Average high : 28.0°C Average : 22.0°C Average low : 16.5°C
Brisbane, Durban, Sao Paulo, Houston or Hong Kong are subtropical without a doubt, there is no dormancy for trees and they are situated at low latitudes. A city who know -25°C in winter can't be subtropical because evergreen trees can't support this. A subtropical area is covered by evergreen trees like live oak. Do we see live oak, gators or spanish moose in New York? No, so that can't be subtropical just because the summers are warm. The biome is just totally different.
In what world are evergreens unable to survive -25°C? And such temperatures aren't even a fixture of NYC's climate.
1. Parts of Long Island, NY are covered in evergreens, despite being cooler than NYC.
2. Live oak is hardy to Zone 7, and NYC lies at the higher end of this zone.
3. Rumor has it that gators occupy NYC's sewer system.
4. Why would a large animal, from Europe, be roaming around NYC?
New York City has a Humid Subtropical Climate in IMHO. Boston probably does come close and is very transitional to a Humid Subtropical Climate and lies Between The Southernmost limit of the Humid Continental Climate and the Northern Most limit of the Humid Subtropical climate. So New York City is well within that perimeter.
No but Washington D.C is the northern east coast major city with a subtropical climate.
NYC is humid subtropical ("temperate") under the coldest month isotherm. It's coldest month is warmer than freezing.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Infamous92
Subtropical, temperate, continental, etc. are all largely debatable terms. I don't get how or why this debate is still going on.
...because people get butthurt that New York City receives cold snaps and snow during winter (even though the climate does not hold snow for any extended length of time).
New York City has a Humid Subtropical Climate in IMHO. Boston probably does come close and is very transitional to a Humid Subtropical Climate and lies Between The Southernmost limit of the Humid Continental Climate and the Northern Most limit of the Humid Subtropical climate. So New York City is well within that perimeter.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
?
