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Wellington. It fits Trewartha's definition, which is more relevant imo. Koppen's -3C (or even the later OC mark) isn't friendly to subtropical vegetation.
A hot summer alone, doesn't mean subtropical. Probably 90% of Wellington's native vegetation wouldn't survive a New York winter, something not true of most other Oceanic climates -NW Europe, PNW.
When I can get winter potatoes, or avocados from the garden in NYC, then I would consider it more subtropical.
actually NYC is now considered to be 'subtropical' one has to be very careful with climate definitions. Remember that Shanghai China is considered 'subtropical'- yet it experiences cold in the winter. Subtropical climates can vary from the very mild- either humid -like Savannah GA or sub humid like cool San Francisco. Washington DC is now considered 'Subtropical'- while NYC is the current far north of this broad climatic definition. Wellington NZ by the way is not considered 'sub tropical- but 'temperate oceanic'.
Considered by who?
Neither NYC or Wellington are sub-tropical, the OP asked which you felt were closer to the term...
Anyone who uses the Koppen/Trewartha systems has to excercise a little common sense. Many climates cannot be simply put into a box, as they can have unique climates that don't fit with a general label, this is where these climates classifications are flawed as NYC is very clearly not sub-tropical despite what Koppen may say...
Neither NYC or Wellington are sub-tropical, the OP asked which you felt were closer to the term...
Anyone who uses the Koppen/Trewartha systems has to excercise a little common sense. Many climates cannot be simply put into a box, as they can have unique climates that don't fit with a general label, this is where these climates classifications are flawed as NYC is very clearly not sub-tropical despite what Koppen may say...
By definition, both Washington and NYC have Cfa climates, why is that so hard for some to accept? Numbers don't lie. And the climates of NYC and Washington aren't anymore unique than any other climate on this Earth.
But never mind, I guess Los Angeles is tropical, because I feel it secretly is, and Moscow is subarctic because it's too cold to be anything else, in my opinion. To hell with these elaborate climate classification systems.
By definition, both Washington and NYC have Cfa climates, why is that so hard for some to accept? Numbers don't lie. And the climates of NYC and Washington aren't anymore unique than any other climate on this Earth.
But never mind, I guess Los Angeles is tropical, because I feel it secretly is, and Moscow is subarctic because it's too cold to be anything else, in my opinion. To hell with these elaborate climate classification systems.
Why is it so hard to accept? Because NYC & Washington are clearly NOT sub-tropical lol
As I said the Koppen/Trewartha classification system is highly flawed, just because THEY say NYC is sub-tropical, doesn't mean that in reality it is...
I could make up my own climate clssification system using a set of numbers/averages etc.. & say that Glasgow was tropical, it doesn't mean that it is
Why is it so hard to accept? Because NYC & Washington are clearly NOT sub-tropical lol
As I said the Koppen/Trewartha classification system is highly flawed, just because THEY say NYC is sub-tropical, doesn't mean that in reality it is...
I could make up my own climate clssification system using a set of numbers/averages etc.. & say that Glasgow was tropical, it doesn't mean that it is
Well you live in NYC and you want to feel better about your humid continental climate by calling it subtropical.
I know NYC has a Cfa climate, but it is a lot closer to a humid continental climate than a subtropical one. It might have a subtropical summer, but definitely not a subtropical winter.
The winters are too cold. the climate means much more restriction on what will grow, hence, less subtropical.
I don't regard Wellington or where I live as subtropical (even if Trewartha does ), but subtropical gardening is a reality for Wellington.
A claim that is highly subjective. And all climates restrict what will grow, the same is true for Wellington, there are plants that require more cold/heat/rain/sun than Wellington can provide.
Subtropical gardening is also a reality for Washington and NYC.
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Well you live in NYC and you want to feel better about your humid continental climate by calling it subtropical.
I know NYC has a Cfa climate, but it is a lot closer to a humid continental climate than a subtropical one.
If NYC has a Cfa climate, how is it closer to continental than subtropical?
And it's foolish to think a label will make anyone feel any different about any climate, I wish the name "Cfa" came with extra winter warmth, but it doesn't. I still live in a climate that averages above freezing in all months, most precipitation in the winter is in the form of rain, when it snows it doesn't stick around, the grass is pretty much green all winter, I see subtropical and "continental" vegetation planted side by side, and I still feel winter sucks. Call it whatever you want, but it's still the same thing at the end of the day.
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Because it is far too cold during the winter! A hot summer climate does not make a sub-tropical climate. I'd say NY has a continental climate...
According to who? Not Köppen or Trewartha.
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