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I'm curious to see how this battle will go. Would you rather a very brief slightly warm period, 8 months below freezing and a polar night, OR a mild maritime climate with all months averaging freezing but with no warm period to speak of?
Port-aux-Français is the lesser of the two evils; maritime mess with borderline snow/rain and constant cloud cover/gloom wind year round. It has more sunshine than Campbell Island, Southern Chile, The Faroe Islands, and the Aleutians though which isn't really saying much. I bet they do get some clear days though.
Norilsk is brutally, deadly cold in winter and doesn't even really have a "warm"' summer to compensate- an average high of 64 F in the warmest month? Record lows in July and August below freezing? I imagine that the summers are sunny and feel pleasant though. But the brutal winters and the 2 months of total darkness and not worth putting up with in exchange for one month of what might pass for spring or fall in a typical continental climate.
However, I would take a climate with cold, snowy (but not extremely brutal like Siberia) and warm summers with some thunderstorms over Port-aux-Français. I'd take Minneapolis, Fargo, Stockholm, or Moscow over an extreme maritime tundra. What about you?
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Port-aux-Français is the lesser of the two evils; maritime mess with borderline snow/rain and constant cloud cover/gloom wind year round. It has more sunshine than Campbell Island, Southern Chile, The Faroe Islands, and the Aleutians though which isn't really saying much. I bet they do get some clear days though.
Norilsk is brutally, deadly cold in winter and doesn't even really have a "warm"' summer to compensate- an average high of 64 F in the warmest month? Record lows in July and August below freezing? I imagine that the summers are sunny and feel pleasant though. But the brutal winters and the 2 months of total darkness and not worth putting up with in exchange for one month of what might pass for spring or fall in a typical continental climate.
However, I would take a climate with cold, snowy (but not extremely brutal like Siberia) and warm summers with some thunderstorms over Port-aux-Français. I'd take Minneapolis, Fargo, Stockholm, or Moscow over an extreme maritime tundra. What about you?
It would depend on the severity of the winter. I would take Port-aux-Français over Fargo and Minneapolis but not over Chicago and Detroit.
Port-aux-Français is the lesser of the two evils; maritime mess with borderline snow/rain and constant cloud cover/gloom wind year round. It has more sunshine than Campbell Island, Southern Chile, The Faroe Islands, and the Aleutians though which isn't really saying much. I bet they do get some clear days though.
Norilsk is brutally, deadly cold in winter and doesn't even really have a "warm"' summer to compensate- an average high of 64 F in the warmest month? Record lows in July and August below freezing? I imagine that the summers are sunny and feel pleasant though. But the brutal winters and the 2 months of total darkness and not worth putting up with in exchange for one month of what might pass for spring or fall in a typical continental climate.
However, I would take a climate with cold, snowy (but not extremely brutal like Siberia) and warm summers with some thunderstorms over Port-aux-Français. I'd take Minneapolis, Fargo, Stockholm, or Moscow over an extreme maritime tundra. What about you?
Agreed. The main complaint I have with Norilsk is the 8 months of solid winter temperatures Its July averages are acceptable, if anemic, and on par with Whitehorse, YT. I would take any D-type (Koeppen) climate with at least 5 months with an average low at or above freezing would over maritime Cfc or ET.
It would depend on the severity of the winter. I would take Port-aux-Français over Fargo and Minneapolis but not over Chicago and Detroit.
Fortunately Deneb I will never have to live in either of these two places.
My next move will be to a place with cooler summers but warmer winters (chinooks), then a few years after that my move will be to a much warmer climate like brissie or Perth.
Good matchup! I choose Port-aux-Français for the much milder weather. Snow is important to me, but with 79 snowy days per year according to Wikipedia, Port-aux-Français is still a good place for snow. Most of it would melt pretty fast, of course, and while I like both falling snow and snow cover, I find snow more exciting when it's falling anyway. Norilsk has better snow cover and apparently more days with snow falling according to Wikipedia (although I would have thought it'd be drier than that), and while I may get used to the temperatures, I wouldn't prefer them. Port-aux-Français can even get summer snow, so that's another positive for me. Port-aux-Français for me, definitely, but Norilsk isn't too bad and there are certainly many climates I would prefer it over.
I'm suspicious of P-A-F's sunshine hours; they seem too high. Given its latitude and its maritime location and the wind and ocean currents there, 900 to 1100 hours seems more likely. And speaking of wind, it seldom blows below 15 mph (6.7 m/s) and hurricane force gusts are common.
Norilsk may be briefly warmer in their "summer" but that doesn't compensate for the intensely cold winter and zero sunshine during most of it. Although there isn't much annual precipitation, rain falls almost as frequently as it does in Port aux Francais. Norilsk's reason for its existence also insures the rain that does fall there is corrosive enough to strip furniture.
Brutal climates, both of them.
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Its July averages are acceptable, if anemic, and on par with Whitehorse, YT. I would take any D-type (Koeppen) climate with at least 5 months with an average low at or above freezing would over maritime Cfc or ET.
