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Old 01-17-2016, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Broward County, FL
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The snow ratio depends more on the midlevel (850 mb or so, maybe 700 mb) temperature than surface. Caribou, Maine can get a lower snow ratio on average than Syracuse, New York because Caribou's snow comes from Atlantic air rather than lake effect. If these numbers are right, Wabash Labrador has a 13:1 ratio in January with an average temperature of -8°F

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wabush#Climate
That's true, but mid-level temps would still be extremely cold with those surface temperatures and even if precipitation is associated with warm weather, that climate is so extremely cold that warmer than normal would be like -25 F or -30 F instead of -50 F . Perhaps precipitation at Wabash is associated more with warmer than normal conditions versus the opposite?


Denver is the opposite, high snow ratios with rather mild temperatures. I think precipitation is associated with colder than average conditions in Denver.

 
Old 01-17-2016, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Finland
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Is it government assisted housing?
Some, but mostly hard cash. The artificial island must be cleaned and then expanded, which is quite pricey. And the location is excellent except for the shipyard. Just a half a mile from the centre.

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The UK had endemic malaria until the 1950s, when the fens and swamps were drained.

https://contagions.wordpress.com/201...saxon-england/
Sure. We had much malaria in Finland too so long as domestic animals didn't live in a separate building from humans. The mosquitos had nice warm and humid conditions year-round. It wasn't before after 1850s before we got rid of it. The mosquitoes, anopheles messeae, still live here, but due to the climate are unable to carry the disease.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...-range-map.png
 
Old 01-17-2016, 04:24 PM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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That's true, but mid-level temps would still be extremely cold with those surface temperatures and even if precipitation is associated with warm weather, that climate is so extremely cold that warmer than normal would be like -25 F or -30 F instead of -50 F . Perhaps precipitation at Wabash is associated more with warmer than normal conditions versus the opposite?
It is here, I think that's true for the winter in most of the coast. But Wabash isn't even close to the ocean and its average is very cold. Some other snow ratios for Canadian cities:

Moncton; 10.0:1 annually, 10.5:1 January
Montreal; 9.7:1 annually, 9.9:1 January
Saint Sault Marie: 13.0:1 annually, 14.0:1 January [lake effect]
Winnipeg: annually 11.1:1 annually, 12.0:1 January
Banff: 13.0:1 annually, 13.6:1 January [in the Rockies]

even though Montreal's mean January temperature is 15°F, 1/3rd of its January precipitation is rain. For Moncton, just over 1/4. Looking at just Canadian locations because they separate rainfall from precipitation. I'm puzzled why the ratios are so in continental locations, did I mistake or missing something? Syracuse had a ratio of 30:1 in December 2010, assuming all the precipitation was snow that month, so that's a minimum ratio. 27:1 last February, and it was cold enough it was rainless. Assuming 75% of January precipitation is snow in Syracuse, the average ratio is 13:1, but maybe it's less than 75% on average. Subtracting out days that were clearly rain, I got a ratio of 15.5:1 in Syracuse.

Daily Summaries Station Details: SYRACUSE HANCOCK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, NY US, GHCND:USW00014771 | Climate Data Online (CDO) | National Climatic Data Center (NCDC)

Boston had a ratio of 19.2:1 last February assuming no rain, which is a safe assumption.

I wonder if Canadian measurement methods result in lower snowfall number than American ones? Here's an average snow:liquid ratio graphic for the US I found:

http://www.islandnet.com/~see/weathe...uidratious.gif

article says snow:liquid ratios actually drop at very cold temperatures

http://lukemweather.blogspot.com/201...ow-ratios.html

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Old 01-17-2016, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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True, but wasn't malaria more prevalant, 100 years ago? The US south and Mediterranean Europe had endemic malaria. Was it just draining swamps and mosquito control?
Mostly. Mosquito control with DDT for a while. Also window screens to keep the mosquitoes out.
 
Old 01-17-2016, 09:28 PM
 
Location: White House, TN
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Just ate a McHighRise.

It's a McDouble with a McChicken stuffed between the two beef patties. I'm aware that this combination has an (R-rated) name already, but I wanted to clean it up because that name is in bad taste.

Alternate G/PG-rated names:

McGroupHug
McGutbuster
McCowAndChicken

Also I ate another McDouble with mozzarella sticks in it. I call this the McScalfaro. Mozzarella is Italian so I just took the last name of the Italian president from when I was born, because it sounds awesome. If I were a few months older it would be the McCossiga, which isn't near as cool.

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Old 01-17-2016, 11:11 PM
 
Location: Murray River, Riverland, South Australia
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Looks nice and cold for Australia Day. Wont even reach 20C in Melbourne and southern Vic if this holds. Well below average here aswell, but below average here is a warm summer day on the coast.

BSCH - Stormcast : GFS Forecast for Victoria
 
Old 01-17-2016, 11:26 PM
 
Location: White House, TN
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Looks nice and cold for Australia Day. Wont even reach 20C in Melbourne and southern Vic if this holds. Well below average here aswell, but below average here is a warm summer day on the coast.

BSCH - Stormcast : GFS Forecast for Victoria
That sucks dude. I would hate it if it didn't get to 20 C / 68 F on July 26 (the Northern Hemisphere equivalent of January 26). I hope you get a nice 30 C. Forecasts 8 days out aren't the most reliable.
 
Old 01-17-2016, 11:55 PM
 
Location: Paris, Île-de-France, France
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What a disappointment. According to the forecast, morning temperature supposed to be single-digits however it ended up only between high-10s to low-20s°F in my area.
 
Old 01-18-2016, 12:21 AM
 
Location: White House, TN
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I want a VideoBrain.
 
Old 01-18-2016, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK
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Some idiot on Facebook posted a photo from January 2013 of an area of Malta covered in hail, claiming it was taken today & it was snow Loads of replies (from people who obviously cannot read) saying such things as "It's not even snowing in England lol" & "I didn't know it snowed in Malta"

The same idiot also posted that this morning roads & pavement were frosty When the minimum at the coast was 11C & even inland at the airport it only dropped to 8C! The "frost" he was referring too is dried salt spray as it has been very windy I don't know how some people manage to dress themselves in the morning...
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