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Old 11-23-2016, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Lizard Lick, NC
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Not comparable at all! The subtropics dropping down to well below freezing is a killer. A 90F day in the subarctic biome is just one day out of the ordinary, a 20F night in the subtropics may kill all your fruit.
Not true, 90 in the Arctic can harm some of the plants there. Especially if it's a multi day heatwave.

 
Old 11-23-2016, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Broward County, FL
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He said subarctic....not arctic.
 
Old 11-23-2016, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Seoul
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But can they grow Jacarandas in places like Raleigh or Mississippi?
 
Old 11-23-2016, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Broward County, FL
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But can they grow Jacarandas in places like Raleigh or Mississippi?
Probably not, but that wouldn't make them not subtropical
 
Old 11-23-2016, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Seoul
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Probably not, but that wouldn't make them not subtropical
I think they're subtropical, but I also think they're flawed climates. If they can grow Jacarandas in Valparaiso, which is affected by a very very cold current off the coat, Jackson should really get them too
 
Old 11-23-2016, 02:14 PM
 
Location: South Jersey
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I don't understand why people act as if you have a garden year round in all subtropical climates a 20 F low in a place like Jackson, MS would do absolutely nothing to affect the vegetation there. Jackson, MS is pretty much the archetype for subtropical also.
But there are people who do garden year-round and are impacted by deep freezes. The probability of such an occurrence merits consideration. Record lows around -20C is not the archetype of subtropical. Note that I'm not saying it isn't subtropical. But it's certainly continental-influenced.
 
Old 11-23-2016, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Broward County, FL
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Um....there's no such thing as a flawed climate. Not this retarded argument again.


Now THIS is apples to oranges. You're literally comparing a climate that has 0 continental influence (not only from being on the west coast of a continent....but the Andes blocks cold air from getting to Valpo) to an east coast climate with no barriers from cold snaps, and expecting them to be the same.


I don't understand why people like you and Tom are constantly comparing west coast climates to east coast ones. Aren't you weather enthusiasts supposedly? You should know better.
 
Old 11-23-2016, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Broward County, FL
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But there are people who do garden year-round and are impacted by deep freezes. The probability of such an occurrence merits consideration. Record lows around -20C is not the archetype of subtropical. Note that I'm not saying it isn't subtropical. But it's certainly continental-influenced.
People who do gardening year-round in places like Jackson, MS are probably not very common, and only grow cold-hardy plants which aren't really severely impacted by deep freezes.


Trying to garden year-round anywhere north of Orlando with tender plants is rather stupid anyways.....and shows a lack of weather/climate knowledge.
 
Old 11-23-2016, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Always Above Average Alley
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Wow, didn't realize this had exploded into an argument when I typed my reply...

Last edited by 77Kelvin; 11-23-2016 at 02:19 PM.. Reason: Wow, didn't realize this had exploded into an argument when I typed my reply...
 
Old 11-23-2016, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Lizard Lick, NC
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He said subarctic....not arctic.
Oops, my bad that's what I meant. Either way plants that grow there are not accustomed to heat
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