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Old 01-05-2017, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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Top 10 for the UK in 2015, with change from 2014 in brackets:

Poland 831,000 (+5.1%)
India 795,000 (+0.2%)
Pakistan 503,000 (-3.8%)
Ireland 382,000 (-0.2%)
Germany 286,000 (-4.9%)
Romania 220,000(+29.4%)
Bangladesh 217,000 (+2.3%)
South Africa 200,000 (-0.2%)
Nigeria 199,000 (+11.7%)
China 197000 (+0.2%)

 
Old 01-05-2017, 01:38 PM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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Acajack, you see my post on burqa bans?
 
Old 01-05-2017, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Acajack, you see my post on burqa bans?
Yes I did. Do you think my view is more in line with those of Europeans on such matters?
 
Old 01-05-2017, 01:45 PM
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Top 10 for the UK in 2015, with change from 2014 in brackets:

Poland 831,000 (+5.1%)
India 795,000 (+0.2%)
Pakistan 503,000 (-3.8%)
Ireland 382,000 (-0.2%)
Germany 286,000 (-4.9%)
Romania 220,000(+29.4%)
Bangladesh 217,000 (+2.3%)
South Africa 200,000 (-0.2%)
Nigeria 199,000 (+11.7%)
China 197000 (+0.2%)
In 2013 for USA, order was China , Mexico then India. All were close

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2015/05/01/china-passes-mexico-as-the-top-source-of-new-u-s-immigrants/
 
Old 01-05-2017, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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I've heard stories about people still studying Swedish and stuck at "hej" and "hejdå" after a decade... If you live in a segregated area you could get around on Arabic and say 50 Swedish words for the rest of your life without any issues.

Needless to say though, their kids going to Swedish-languaged schools speak a perfectly mutually intelligible Swedish albeit often with heavy accent.
Immigrant kids who go to Swedish schools (all or most of their life) still speak Swedish with a heavy accent?
 
Old 01-05-2017, 01:53 PM
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San Francisco looks like a great city. I bet many loony left Swedes wouldn't mind living there.
When I hear loony left & San Francisco I think of NIMBY morons who think they're helping lower income people.

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I think he was right too. An immigrant will always be an immigrant in Europe. I'm not sure if Europeans even want integration - I think what they want is for these people to not be here in the first place.
hard to take the immigrants aren't assimilating in Europe with that attitude
 
Old 01-05-2017, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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San Francisco looks like a great city. I bet many loony left Swedes wouldn't mind living there.



I think he was right too. An immigrant will always be an immigrant in Europe. I'm not sure if Europeans even want integration - I think what they want is for these people to not be here in the first place.
Well, in most European countries immigration was different from the new world where immigration was to populate, settle and develop the country. In Europe the countries were already settled and developed and immigration was primarily to fill a labour shortage, often temporarily.

No one ever said: we've got this big empty area in central France just south of Clermont-Ferrand that could be developed. Let's fill it with Ukrainian homesteaders and see what happens...
 
Old 01-05-2017, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Foreignorland 58 N, 17 E.
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Immigrant kids who go to Swedish schools (all or most of their life) still speak Swedish with a heavy accent?
Depends totally on the area they live in and what parents they got, how assimilated they are, how school goes, et cetera. I'd say it's 50/50.

You don't really hear accents on those that go to Uni. They're better dressed than native Swedes for example

I'd say it's more strange that not all people of Gatineau can speak English at a decent second-language level rather than that accents of "sociolects" as they're sometimes called exist in poorer sub-group communities.

Has there ever been serious moves to make English compulsory in all schools across Canada or are the nationalists too powerful for that to ever happen? Francophone politicians kind of shoot their own kids' futures and prospects in the foot with doing that. The world is getting ever more Anglophone.
 
Old 01-05-2017, 02:05 PM
 
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I'd say it's more strange that not all people of Gatineau don't speak English rather than that accents of "sociolects" as they're sometimes called exist in poorer sub-group communities.

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Not sure what this means. I am just being curious. Not judgmental at all.
 
Old 01-05-2017, 02:07 PM
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Well, in most European countries immigration was different from the new world where immigration was to populate, settle and develop the country. In Europe the countries were already settled and developed and immigration was primarily to fill a labour shortage, often temporarily.

No one ever said: we've got this big empty area in central France just south of Clermont-Ferrand that could be developed. Let's fill it with Ukrainian homesteaders and see what happens...
That was true 100 years ago, but there isn't any area left of the US to settle and develop.
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