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Old 02-13-2017, 01:16 AM
 
Location: United Kingdom
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It's me they laugh at though.

 
Old 02-13-2017, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Key Biscayne, FL
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Originally Posted by flamingGalah! View Post
So basically it is merely YOU choosing to identify as Ukrainian, despite being American & also having other national ancestry, you have picked the Ukrainian part of your heritage, over anything else...

It still doesn't mean you are any more Ukrainian than I am French though lol...

And I never told you to stop calling yourself Ukrainian, but you must therefore accept that people will question it & will be puzzled why you would do so. Most people would find it unlikely that you would consider yourself anything other than American, seeing as both you & your parents were born in the US... What is so bad about simply being American with Ukrainian ancestry anyway?
One of my parents was born outside of the U.S and the other spent a good deal of childhood outside of it. I don't consider myself to be anything but American. Or course on a physical level my heritage is from the parts of the world (mainly Italy and Mexico) where my family is from. However I consider myself to be entirely American and thus am primarily concerned with the occurrences within and interests of my country. As I've said before it baffles me that Snj90 considers himself to be so "Ukrainian" when logically most people would not consider him to be anything but an American with Eastern European heritage.
 
Old 02-13-2017, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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Love this song.

 
Old 02-13-2017, 09:47 AM
 
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If you have 2 ukrainian grandparents that means that you're 1/4 ukrainian...

I'm half spanish half dutch (dutch mom, spanish dad, 2 dutch grandparents, 2 spanish grandparents) and I also feel a quite strong nationality to both Netherlands and Spain. I feel being part of both of them.

You can be also american & proud of your heritage, as most of italoamericans for example are very proud to be descendants from italians and many are even 3rd or 4th generation but they still feel italians.
 
Old 02-13-2017, 10:27 AM
 
Location: South Jersey
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If you have 2 ukrainian grandparents that means that you're 1/4 ukrainian...

I'm half spanish half dutch (dutch mom, spanish dad, 2 dutch grandparents, 2 spanish grandparents) and I also feel a quite strong nationality to both Netherlands and Spain. I feel being part of both of them.

You can be also american & proud of your heritage, as most of italoamericans for example are very proud to be descendants from italians and many are even 3rd or 4th generation but they still feel italians.
Not 1/4 - is that a typo?

I actually am sorta interested in my Italian heritage. But for me it just different. There is no contradiction for me. I'm Ukrainian-American with some Italian heritage.
 
Old 02-13-2017, 10:46 AM
 
Location: South Jersey
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So basically it is merely YOU choosing to identify as Ukrainian,
You will naturally feel drawn to identifying with your ethnicity, your blood, as I do, but ultimately self-identification is important. If a person repudiates his heritage, then it doesn't really count for anything.
 
Old 02-13-2017, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Broward County, FL
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I was born in Venezuela, moved here at six years old, and I still feel more "American" than Venezuelan.


I don't ever deny that I'm Venezuelan, but it's kinda hard to ignore that I lived there only six years and have been here for 19 out of 25 years of my life.
 
Old 02-13-2017, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Seoul
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I spent about half my life in Russia and half my life in the states. I feel more Russian than American
 
Old 02-13-2017, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Broward County, FL
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I spent about half my life in Russia and half my life in the states. I feel more Russian than American
Yeah, if that had been my case, I would probably feel more Venezuelan too.
 
Old 02-13-2017, 11:22 AM
 
Location: United Kingdom
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If you are born outside of the country that you live in your nationality is dictated based on where you are born, so someone who has citizenship from China but was born in Malaysia would be classified as Malaysian Chinese.

Citizenship doesn't count so to speak, the equivalent would be me moving to the US, gaining American citizenship and saying that I'm 'American' despite the fact that I was born in the United Kingdom.

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