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Old 02-13-2017, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Broward County, FL
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No ****, no one was arguing that. I was speaking straight about how I "feel" personally. I never deny that I'm Venezuelan or my heritage, but I'm highly Americanized. It's what happens when you've been here three-fourths of your life.



Plus I am an American citizen. So my citizenship is American.

 
Old 02-13-2017, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Seoul
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You learn so much between the ages of 6 and 10, these are the ages you really start doing things consciously so they are really important to your identity. I'm a double citizen
 
Old 02-13-2017, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Broward County, FL
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^ Yep. And I moved here at age six.
 
Old 02-13-2017, 11:33 AM
 
Location: United Kingdom
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One of my parents was born outside of the U.S and the other spent a good deal of childhood outside of it. I don't consider myself to be anything but American. Or course on a physical level my heritage is from the parts of the world (mainly Italy and Mexico) where my family is from. However I consider myself to be entirely American and thus am primarily concerned with the occurrences within and interests of my country. As I've said before it baffles me that Snj90 considers himself to be so "Ukrainian" when logically most people would not consider him to be anything but an American with Eastern European heritage.
So what? I could go and live in America for ten years, that doesn't make me American. As I said previously, imo nationality is dictated to by your country of birth/origin.

Of course, if you move to a country at 2/3 that's a different set of circumstances.
 
Old 02-13-2017, 11:38 AM
 
Location: United Kingdom
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No ****, no one was arguing that. I was speaking straight about how I "feel" personally. I never deny that I'm Venezuelan or my heritage, but I'm highly Americanized. It's what happens when you've been here three-fourths of your life.



Plus I am an American citizen. So my citizenship is American.
My Cousins who moved to Australia at 10 are now Australian citizens. That doesn't make them Australian per say.

Similarly, me at age 21 moving to America and going on to gain American citizenship does not make me 'American'.
 
Old 02-13-2017, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK
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One of my parents was born outside of the U.S and the other spent a good deal of childhood outside of it. I don't consider myself to be anything but American. Or course on a physical level my heritage is from the parts of the world (mainly Italy and Mexico) where my family is from. However I consider myself to be entirely American and thus am primarily concerned with the occurrences within and interests of my country. As I've said before it baffles me that Snj90 considers himself to be so "Ukrainian" when logically most people would not consider him to be anything but an American with Eastern European heritage.
Exactly, you will of course have some part of you that will be proud of your heritage/roots, but ultimately that is all it is...

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You will naturally feel drawn to identifying with your ethnicity, your blood, as I do, but ultimately self-identification is important. If a person repudiates his heritage, then it doesn't really count for anything.
Yes & no one is denying that, the point that most feel strange is that you actually consider yourself Ukrainian over American. A country you have never been to & that neither you or your parents were even born in, that is all, no one is saying you shouldn't be proud or identify on a certain level with your ancestry. Calling yourself American with Ukrainian heritage doesn't mean you are dismissing your "roots" at all...
 
Old 02-13-2017, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Seoul
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In Buenos Aires I met many people who were Argentinian, lived their entire lives there, but still think they are more Italian or German than Argentinean, wtf while I liked Buenos Aires, it feels like the people there wish that they could separate themselves from South America and float off to Western Europe. In other provinces of Argentina people seem much more proud of their culture, but the people in Buenos Aires wish they could be Munich or Milan 2.0. That was kind of annoying I thought, it's like the American college kids here who constantly claim they're moving to Canada or Sweden
 
Old 02-13-2017, 11:40 AM
 
Location: United Kingdom
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So SNJ90 hasn't visited the Ukraine? That makes his case even more ridiculous.
 
Old 02-13-2017, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Lexington, KY
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I used to call myself Floridian in order to feel more connected to the rest of my family. But it was untrue and ultimately pointless.
 
Old 02-13-2017, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Seoul
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So SNJ90 hasn't visited the Ukraine? That makes his case even more ridiculous.
Nope. I think he should visit Ukraine one day to get a feel of his heritage
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