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Old 08-25-2016, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Arundel, FL
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So? The area of dense city with light pollution would be far less of an impact than endless suburban sprawl spoiling the landscape for miles and miles.
I'm not arguing that there would more light pollution overall. Muslim12 was implying that light pollution in the dense city core itself would be reduced if fewer people lived in suburbs, which makes absolutely no sense.
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Old 08-25-2016, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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Buenos Aires is at the same latitude as Dallas but has only dropped below 3c once this year. It's an east coast city too, on a relatively unstable continent. Coincidentally I'm also at the same latitude as Dallas and we haven't even gone below 7c! The southern hemipshere is great, isn't?


Indeed it is. See what a powerful and stable polar vortex will do for you. On our side of the world the vortex is under attack all winter and thus we get the deviations we do. Trust me, the colder the Arctic is, the more powerful the vortex and the less cold that would intrude down on us in winter.
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Old 08-25-2016, 10:22 PM
 
Location: Seoul
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You will never ever get that in the South with their anti govt mindset and hatred of anyone telling them what they can't do. If you let them do what they want, there would be chock a block McMansions in every sf of this country.


I like what you like: Dense urban cities with high rise living, and then beautiful nature for everyone unspoiled by sprawl and protected nature reserves outside the cities. Kind of like Europe where the countryside is gorgeous and the cities bustling. Most Americans have no clue how beautiful European cities and countryside are. They think they live in the most bestest beautiful place on earth. Ugh. Most Americans love the idea of sprawl and having their own little oasis and screw everyone else.


In Germany the govt makes farmers give up a thin strip of their land for public easement so folks can walk across the countryside on nice bike or walking paths. Can you imagine if our govt tried that here lol. As if a tiny 5' strip of land would impede them that much. This country is full of some of the most selfish people on earth.
In Chile that's the same way, once you go outside the big city you skip the suburbs and go into the country areas, and then the beautiful mountains and forests that haven't been touched by mankind yet. Even Moscow is like that, you go straight from the highrises of the city and see lakes and tiny villages, no sprawl to speak of
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Old 08-26-2016, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Sydney
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Suburbs can be nice when they're leafy and all that. Canberra hasn't got much of a core but the suburbs are gorgeous, I think it would be great to live in them.
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Old 08-26-2016, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Lizard Lick, NC
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I'm not arguing that there would more light pollution overall. Muslim12 was implying that light pollution in the dense city core itself would be reduced if fewer people lived in suburbs, which makes absolutely no sense.
What! I didn't imply that at all, I just said it would be great if we reduced light pollution. No way did I imply that although now that I think about it, it would reduce the area that sees significant light pollution. No way did I imply that was the solution and that thought didn't even cross my mind till you said it! You are always trying to come at me in any possible way lmao.
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Old 08-26-2016, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Lizard Lick, NC
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You will never ever get that in the South with their anti govt mindset and hatred of anyone telling them what they can't do. If you let them do what they want, there would be chock a block McMansions in every sf of this country.


I like what you like: Dense urban cities with high rise living, and then beautiful nature for everyone unspoiled by sprawl and protected nature reserves outside the cities. Kind of like Europe where the countryside is gorgeous and the cities bustling. Most Americans have no clue how beautiful European cities and countryside are. They think they live in the most bestest beautiful place on earth. Ugh. Most Americans love the idea of sprawl and having their own little oasis and screw everyone else.


In Germany the govt makes farmers give up a thin strip of their land for public easement so folks can walk across the countryside on nice bike or walking paths. Can you imagine if our govt tried that here lol. As if a tiny 5' strip of land would impede them that much. This country is full of some of the most selfish people on earth.
For me weather is not a defining factor of where i live and would not hinder me from living in europe. I always did like Europe for how they use their land. Sounds very pleasant in Germany, wouldnt hurt to follow their lead. Imagine how we could reduce stress and stress related illnesses if we just fixed our cities and had a bit more countryside and wood land to enjoy to ourselves. Also being able to see a few more stars even in the city would be a lot nicer.

I love the lifestyle that places in Europe have and do envy it. Imagine living on top of a hill in a farmhouse in Tuscany with olives, figs, citrus, and grapes growing. Or maybe an island village in Greece with lots of fishermen. Watching the beautiful sunsets, surrounded by happy carefree people, sounds pretty nice to me. Doesn't take much to please me and I always did enjoy simple stuff like that as cliche and corny as it sounds.
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Old 08-26-2016, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Seoul
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Suburbs can be nice when they're leafy and all that. Canberra hasn't got much of a core but the suburbs are gorgeous, I think it would be great to live in them.
Boston suburbs are nice because they're so leafy. Look at the suburbs like Brookline, Cambridge, Somerville, they're very unique and original, can barely call them suburbs
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Old 08-26-2016, 10:47 AM
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Location: Surrey/London
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Some of the pics of suburbs I've taken here look a bit like some of the older inner city suburbs in places like Boston, Philadelphia or even Sydney.

Our suburbs are nothing like those you'd see in mainland Europe; they often have lots of low density sprawl into the countryside (though not as extreme as in the US or Aus), vs apartment blocks and fields.
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Old 08-26-2016, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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In Spain, suburbs don't really exist to any great degree - you have high-density cities like Barcelona that just drop off into the countryside with no transition.
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Old 08-26-2016, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Seoul
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In Spain, suburbs don't really exist to any great degree - you have high-density cities like Barcelona that just drop off into the countryside with no transition.
Reminds me of Moscow, it's amazing
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