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Old 12-28-2018, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Buenos Aires and La Plata, ARG
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Yes, as you read it. We know that Miami's winter are almost non existent (Miami's users here make it very clear to us day by day). Following my intuition i guessed that it must have one of the warmest "winters" in the world for its latitude.
So, i did a bit of research and yes: there only two others regions in the world above 25º with such warm winters (or even a bit higher). One is the east coast of the Red Sea (Saudí Arabia); the other is also the east coast of the Persian Gulf (Iran).
Miami has warmer winters than cities like Doha, Karachi or Maputo
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Old 12-28-2018, 12:52 PM
 
Location: 30461
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How does Tampa/Orlando compare to other areas at 28 North? I keep hearing LK talking about coconut palms being able to grow farther and farther north in central Florida.
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Old 12-29-2018, 04:10 AM
 
Location: Foreignorland 58 N, 17 E.
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How does Tampa/Orlando compare to other areas at 28 North? I keep hearing LK talking about coconut palms being able to grow farther and farther north in central Florida.
All of peninsular Florida is very warm for its latitude.

The Persian Gulf turns into land on that latitude though, rendering cooler winter temps.

Anyway, looking at means, 21.7/15.2 for Southern Tenerife in January should be the warmest in the world for January/July on that latitude. Gran Canaria at 20.8/15.2 keeps up well, but its slightly more northerly latitude and the airport being not directly exposed to southerlies causes it to fall short, although it is still warmer by some margin than Florida. Tampa's 21.1/10.9 can keep up with the highs, but not for the lows. Instead, it's rather comparable to and slightly cooler than Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia, at 21.1/12.0 for July.
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Old 12-29-2018, 04:41 AM
 
Location: Foreignorland 58 N, 17 E.
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Sharm El Sheikh in Egypt is 0.02° farther south than 28°N and is also warmer than Tampa at 21.7/13.3 for January, although well beaten by Tenerife South. I would assume areas north of Santa Rosalía in Baja California Sur also match Tampa rather well, since Santa Rosalía at mid-27°N is at 21.0/11.9, which is also rather mild.
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Old 12-29-2018, 06:43 AM
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Location: Ontario
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Warmest at 28N could be .....

Guaymas, Mexico

Average january high 23.9C
Average january low 13.7C

And that’s old 1951-1980 Climate Normals ....


Compare that with “cold” for 28N ...

Wenzhou, China

Average january high 12.2C
Average january low 5.0C

And Wenzhou is on the coast...also newer 1971-2000 Climate Normals.
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Old 12-29-2018, 08:10 AM
 
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How does Tampa/Orlando compare to other areas at 28 North? I keep hearing LK talking about coconut palms being able to grow farther and farther north in central Florida.
The coconut line cut off was always south St Pete before 1981 as it has water on 3 sides from the bay and gulf and has winter temps like Miami. But there has always been a few right on the gulf on the south side of tall condos as far north as Clearwater all these years. Even the super freezes of the 1980's did not kill them all with lows of 19 to 23f in Tampa. But Home depot and other stores sell them so people plant them well inland and too far north and they get killed when temps are below 27f for a few hours. But now the last 9 years we not had any lows in the 20's other than 2010 and last Jan for my area.

So it is not worth growing them where i live as they are gonna get killed once we get into the 20's. So you can go years with one growing well and then BOOM we get below 28f and it is dead fred.
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Old 12-29-2018, 08:24 AM
 
Location: 30461
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I think Bermuda is the most impressive given the latitude. Warmer winters than South Padre Island, TX at 27°N!
Bermuda's actually a little north of 32. Bermuda is farther north than Savannah, and at the same latitude as me. It's climate a prime example of the power of warm currents.
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Old 12-29-2018, 08:29 AM
 
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Bermuda's actually a little north of 32. Bermuda is farther north than Savannah, and at the same latitude as me. It's climate a prime example of the power of warm currents.
They got coconuts growing about as far north as you can get.
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Old 12-29-2018, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK
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They got coconuts growing about as far north as you can get.
Coconut palms grow on Madeira which is further north than Bermuda.
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Old 12-29-2018, 09:21 AM
 
Location: In transition
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Warmest at 28N could be .....

Guaymas, Mexico

Average january high 23.9C
Average january low 13.7C

And that’s old 1951-1980 Climate Normals ....


Compare that with “cold” for 28N ...

Wenzhou, China

Average january high 12.2C
Average january low 5.0C

And Wenzhou is on the coast...also newer 1971-2000 Climate Normals.
Want to check out a cold low elevation area for 28N, Changsha is even colder.

8.3/2.5 in January. That is even slightly colder than Tofino, BC at 49N
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