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Raleigh, as well, got 20" of snow on January 25, 2000 and I'm sure have had significant storms since. Atlanta gets a few 6" storms but mostly freezing rain. I wold rate Atlanta tossup, Raleigh not so much.
Myrtle Beach had its last snowfall in '04, quit acting like that the Carolinas are a part of Canada for goodness sakes!
To be honest, there ARE plants that are not copycats of regions that are NOT what the Carolinas are about, native plants I might add, like dwarf palmettos, live oaks, and the Sabals. People on here get so triggered about muh ugly Sabals, don't know why .
I lived in Myrtle Beach for over a year and I can say that Myrtle Beach and even Raleigh would be warm-bias. Exit 90 on I-95 has a Sheetz with palm trees planted nearby, but ofc, it's not the types that are in the Bahamas or any other FOREIGN place, since North Carolina has its own type of biome that it doesn't conform to other places. Like I said, the Carolinas are unique in their own way as a region that people should give some love to. Broadleaf evergreen plants and even some palms CAN work, as long as you cooperate with the local conditions, and not force things into the area that is not!
I assimilated to the Carolinian climate way more than most subtropical worshippers on this forum, as little of a timespan that I have lived in the area, as well as going down I-95 along the way in North Carolina too. It's really something to think about when people want to assert that the Carolinas ought to be copycats of other regions, instead of embracing the Carolinian climate, or Alabamian, or whatnot. North and South Carolina are not Barcelona, Canada, or Sydney, AUS. People should go find the places that work for 'real palm tree culture' and be there instead.
This is true if the polar vortex becomes stronger under climate change and results in more frequent and severe arctic outbreaks over the southern United States…..
This is true if the polar vortex becomes stronger under climate change and results in more frequent and severe arctic outbreaks over the southern United States…..
Not a single night of frost yet for where I live now, coming back from SC for living there for over a year. Leaves are colorful but not completely but I get to see a lot of pretty colors still unlike SC.
This is true if the polar vortex becomes stronger under climate change and results in more frequent and severe arctic outbreaks over the southern United States…..
It's actually the opposite. A strong polar vortex keeps the cold air where it belongs, swirling "in orbit" around the pole. A weak polar vortex allows cold air to be unleashed form up north wreaking chaos and destruction in the south.
Not a single night of frost yet for where I live now, coming back from SC for living there for over a year. Leaves are colorful but not completely but I get to see a lot of pretty colors still unlike SC.
There hasn't been any frost yet even up to coastal New Hampshrie. When it comes (soon) it won't be long for much of the Carolinas. Atlanta is forecast to dip down to the mid 30s this week.
There hasn't been any frost yet even up to coastal New Hampshrie. When it comes (soon) it won't be long for much of the Carolinas. Atlanta is forecast to dip down to the mid 30s this week.
I'm in Worcester MA and we haven't gotten frost yet in the city, though it has gotten quite close. There have probably been a few frosty nights in the nearby hills, due to the slightly higher elevation and removal from the UHI. City Proper projected to get a freeze in a few days from now.
The highs have been in the mid 50s on the low end, don't think we've dropped to a 50 flat high yet and may not for a while if we make it through the next week without one. It's common around here for lows to dip to freezing at night while highs are still in the mid 60s throughout the winter. A couple halloweens ago the low was 37 and high was 75.
We're just starting November, a month where we usually have the first frost at some point, but often have loads of highs in the mid 70s and even lows in the 60s
The climate here is extremely variable from november to april. Sometimes it's 75 highs for a week then 45 highs for a week then back to 70s in February. Other times it's more stable 40s and 50s
The weather we're forecasted this week would not be out of place whatsoever in January or February, but it would be likely be mixed in with some genuinely chilly days too
The Mississippi valley is the quintessential subtropical climate IMO. It doesn’t reach the fall line until the confluence of the Ohio at Cairo, IL and still follows a moist lowland biome all the way past St Louis https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsberry,_Missouri for example. A clear subtropical climate: heavy thundershowers, long summer season with lots of rain, fairly low diurnal range. Clear contrast with somewhere like Toronto, which would be on the warm end of the continental side. The leeward Great Lakes are too dry, mostly windy tall grass prairie and too much maritime influence, although there are isolated microclimates that are humid subtropical such as Toledo, Ohio. The idea that people wouldn’t even consider somewhere like East Arkansas or West Tennessee as subtropical is absurd. They’re still part of the same coastal plain that extends down past New Orleans, with swamp forests and alligators. Humid subtropical through and through, gardening trends aside. People post pictures of palm trees on the Scilly isles as if they’re a better example when they’re in the frigid waters of the North Atlantic. This forum has me constantly scratching my head
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