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Old 09-11-2011, 08:21 PM
 
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I haven't heard the term transplant trap but it is a good one.
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Old 09-12-2011, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Waynesville NC
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awww come on man the smell in town is horrid.....Drive around the lake and count walkers then drive around the mill and do the same..... Property value increases help people who own homes.....I fully understand that downtown business wont employee 1000 people....But like I said retraining.reinvestment money means people get trained in industries with work available......it could even mean sparking a new industry in town. The town of canton is almost all locals but not all of canton.....there are big developments out newfound out clyde hwy towards cruso etc etc......again though I go back to the name canton being synonymous with stank. A revitalized downtown doesnt have to mean tourism.....in fact cater to locals...there are tons of thing locals would love to see here I bet
we are just go in circles with this now....

Answer this....Where in Haywood or even Buncombe County are all these Employees gonna find work and still earn a reasonable pay during this day and age if the Mill were to Close?
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Old 09-13-2011, 08:36 PM
 
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we are just go in circles with this now....

Answer this....Where in Haywood or even Buncombe County are all these Employees gonna find work and still earn a reasonable pay during this day and age if the Mill were to Close?

you act as if the mill is like the lifeline around here.....look at these companies listed just in the vicinity of asheville...not all buncombe county and none of haywood at all

the mill employs 1000 people all these companies do at least that

Buncombe County Public Schools Educational Services
3000+ Mission Health System and Hospital Hospitals
3000+ City of Asheville Executive, Legislative & Other General Government Support
1000-2999 The Biltmore Company Museums, Historical Sites & Similar Institutions
1000-2999 Buncombe County Government Executive, Legislative & Other General Government Support
1000-2999 The Grove Park Inn Resort & Spa Accommodation
1000-2999 Ingles Markets, Inc. (Home Office Buncombe County) Food & Beverage Stores
1000-2999 VA Medical Center-Asheville Department of Veterans Affairs Hospitals
1000-2999 BorgWarner Turbo & Emissions Systems Transportation Equip. Mfg.
750-999 CarePartners Nursing & Residential Care Facilities
750-999 Eaton Corporation - Electrical Division Electrical Equip., Appliance & Component Mfg.
750-999
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Old 09-13-2011, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Carolina Mountains
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you act as if the mill is like the lifeline around here.....

It is and you clearly don't understand that and don't care enough to take a look at it from others eyes. All I have to say is thank goodness you aren't in a government position with power to close the mill down.

This has gone WAY too long and gone off topic from the OP. Its time to end this.
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Old 09-13-2011, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Waynesville NC
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you act as if the mill is like the lifeline around here....
It is
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Old 09-14-2011, 11:08 AM
 
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Is there any new technology that can control the pollution?
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Old 09-14-2011, 12:27 PM
 
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It is and you clearly don't understand that and don't care enough to take a look at it from others eyes. All I have to say is thank goodness you aren't in a government position with power to close the mill down.

This has gone WAY too long and gone off topic from the OP. Its time to end this.

you say it is but provide really no relevant back up.......Its only a lifeline because people view it that way......I've provided tons of reasonable topics and ideas and you just say THE MILL.......yet you fail to see any validity in the concept that the mill is simultaneously the reason canton has low property values, low tax ratables, etc the mill keeps money out of canton just as much as it pays a few people....yes a relative few people...again the mill employees 1000 people not 100,000
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Old 09-14-2011, 12:38 PM
 
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It is
ok since no one else wants to I will provide more real info. the below is directly from the haywood county economic development commission.
Note that retail, education, leisure services, service industry, and health care all employee more people than the mill and all except education employee more than all manufacturing in the county. Also note that construction is just below the mill.

Now will you continue to argue that thoose industries would not grow without the mill?? and therefore provide more jobs, a much higher quality of life, increased property value etc etc???? if not please provide more than just your opinion


Largest Industries in the County by Number of Employees
(December 2009)


Agricultural Services: 29
Construction Services: 941
Manufacturing: 1896
Wholesale Trade: 317
Retail Trade: 2801
Finance, Insurance, Real Estate: 602
Transportation & Utilities: 245
Service, unclassified: 3006
Educational Services: 1778
Health Care, Social Services: 2589
Leisure & Hospitality: 2224

Total 16,428






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Old 09-14-2011, 12:39 PM
 
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Is there any new technology that can control the pollution?
the mill is too big for the pigeon river period....always has been and its well documented but the mill ($$$$$$$) continue to get around permit and gain exemptions to laws
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Old 09-14-2011, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Waynesville NC
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newbie22....What do you not Understand? Jobs are HARD to come by in this day....What happens to the people that are ALREADY in those positions that you listed? think there just gonna get let off so some former mill workers can get the jobs?
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