Hey guys,
I found this thread somewhat interesting in a mildly amusing way. While some might think christianguitarist27 is a bit of a fruitloop, I think he is probably good at what he does, sales and its related business primarily.
Being a christian myself I do try to help ppl on CD. Though I don't type 70 WPM, but I do try to give helpful advice when I have the time. Today I'm home from work with a cold. Hence I'm reading/responding to this thread CD. I am also a hiring manager for top forune 500 technology company. So maybe I can address things from more of a
corporate perspective.
For our company and others like it we require you to apply online through our corporate website. With large companies we have fully computerized HR systems which must be used if you ever want to work for us. There are no excpetions or special dude/bro deals or instant interview type offers made. Policies must be followed corporately mandated and regulated. I also work indirectly for the Gov't and the same applies for federal jobs. So there is a reason in these cases to follow standard procedures. We service a different type of client and have a different work force.
Now that said some of the principles which christianguitarist27 still apply in the corporate world like
taking initiative, selling yourself and your skills, standing out from the crowd (sea of resumes), being honest and forthright, persistant and polite (not a pest), thinking outside the box, etc... Part of these skills come more naturally to some, while others can be taught them, still others learn them through the school of hard knocks. I kind of learned them as I went through all these avenues.
Lets start with #1 for our company:
1. Experience:
Experience is King, especially in times like these in a down market. What can you do (have you done) and is it relavant at all to the position you are applying for?
2. Demonstration of initiative: Are you a go getter? Do you like making things happen, watching things happen or asking what happened? If you have intiative how has that been demonstrated in previous positions you've held? Do you wait for people to come to you and or can you take ideas/ business proposal to management, then execute a plan of action. Can you work independently if required?
3. Sales: I know, I know your not in sales or looking for a sales job. Well, I'm not either. But whether you realize it or not you are selling us your skills. Do you believe in yourself, have confidence in your skills, abilities and benefit you would provide our company if we hired you. Are you enthusiastic, upbeat, positive, a problem solver (vs. creator, drama king/queen).
4. Education: Did you work hard in school toward a goal? If so did you achieve it? I can tell you that in the corporate world education and training
are important. And depending on the position you cannot even be considered unless you have the appropriate training. I know that for the OP is was not needed. And hats off to him for making it in his business ventures. But I'm giving you the other side of the corporate coin. Now that said I can tell you that I helped hire someone who had a degree in a non- related field (phsychology) because he had the others qualities mentioned here.
5. Professionalism: this covers many areas but included some key components:
a.
Resume: perhaps the most important. Many ppl have good raw skills. But they don't know how to present them in a accurate, concise and articualte fashion for managers to notice. Have you heard the term -
you never get a second chance to make a good first impression. Well its true. I review hundreds of resumes, and if yours doesn't jump at me and is hard to read/follow in terms of your ability to fill
the position I am trying to hire for then there is a problem. Key here, tailor the resume. Don't send your generic version which applies for any job and has an unrelated professional objective, etc... Instead of the shotgun approach, target jobs you are most interested in and spend more time/effort demonstrating why you would be a good fit. Put your contact information on it and follow up when called or emailed. Don't lie about education/experience! We'll catch it and it will be grounds for automatic dismissal as a candidate.
b. The Interview: Personal presentation and speech. Don't come in dressed in casual clothes and use slang in the interview. Anticipate questions in the interview and provide additional information about your professional achievements.
Tell a story about what you have done and make it relavant to the current job.
6. Perisistance: don't give up or sell yourself short. If you see a job that looks interesting which you think you could possibly do, but then you read the requirements and you don't have all of them, don't give up. Serioulsy this is an important one. I've never had 100% of the requirements for the positions I've held. But I still applied and whoever was hiring saw that I was the best candidate for the job. Maybe I had 70-80% of the requirements, but then additional skills, qualities they were looking for. Or maybe the next guy in line on had 68%. You'll never know unless you try.
If you say you have done all the above and still have problems, consider reinventing yourself. Think outside the box you are currently in. Maybe expand your job type focus. For example the psychology major applying for technical positions because he had a knack for computers. Expand your geographic net. Consider relocating for the right opportunity. Consider taking a lower paying job temporarily which allows you to gain
valuable Experience you are lacking (see #1). For college students this means interships or part-time jobs which provide
relevant exeperience, not working at the mall or student bookstore. Lastly consider service to your country. If not interested in the military consider civil service work. While we are going through bugetary issues work still needs to get done. Take a look here -
http://www.usajobs.opm.gov/
I hope that helps some looking at the corporate side of things here.
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Derek
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