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I did both appeals that wereallowed and both were denied although the employer did not even have his facts straight during the first appeal process. My next step would be to file an appeal with the Superior Court of the county which also costs a fee that I cannot afford.
Those biased people are wrong to believe the common fallacies that the unemployed are lazy, have little skills or have lost them, are socially inept or not intelligent. Having a generalization about a group of people is wrong because people cannot be grouped into one category; we have unique situations, backgrounds, skills, education and experiences.
You know I read a lot of this, particularly here at C-D , and I just brush it off that these people are just rationalizing, or deliberately narrow their focus so they just see the good, believe the spin that confirms their political biases (whatever those may be)...... or think one bad example (like in the anecedote) is an excuse to generalize, and the brush off the issue.
I can understand that the media doesnt dwell on this because its a story without the happy ending, but I want to face the reality and here what REALLY happens to people.
For example, we had a series of big plant shutdowns here in Dayton, over the 2000s, culminating with the shutdown of a big GM assembly plant....this was profiled in the documentary [url=http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1487120/]The Last Truck[/url=
So, what happened to those worker?. Were did they end up? How did they end up? And what happens to them 5 year out, 10 years out, 15 years out, after they lost their jobs?
Nary a peep.
Stuff like that, the REAL story of the fallout of the downsizing of America.
The story of maybe one factory and what happens to the workers, both white and blue collar, over time. This story has NOT been told.
Sorry to hear that. I guess every state is different.
Especially the south. My buddy, who also lost his job with same employer, went up to NY because he was tired of how the unemployed are treated in GA. Also, the south states are right to fire states. Too many good ole boys still making politics down here. Probably the reason all the big corporations have their main offices in the south.
You know I read a lot of this, particularly here at C-D , and I just brush it off that these people are just rationalizing, or deliberately narrow their focus so they just see the good, believe the spin that confirms their political biases (whatever those may be)...... or think one bad example (like in the anecedote) is an excuse to generalize, and the brush off the issue.
I can understand that the media doesnt dwell on this because its a story without the happy ending, but I want to face the reality and here what REALLY happens to people.
For example, we had a series of big plant shutdowns here in Dayton, over the 2000s, culminating with the shutdown of a big GM assembly plant....this was profiled in the documentary [url=http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1487120/]The Last Truck[/url=
So, what happened to those worker?. Were did they end up? How did they end up? And what happens to them 5 year out, 10 years out, 15 years out, after they lost their jobs?
Nary a peep.
Stuff like that, the REAL story of the fallout of the downsizing of America.
The story of maybe one factory and what happens to the workers, both white and blue collar, over time. This story has NOT been told.
Many of the unemployed are relying on a spouse or family member, but their income and lifestyle have been cut substantially. The house may have been lost and now they're living in a dumpy one bedroom. The nice car may have been repossessed and now they have a beater. Many are likely on some form of public assistance or private charity aid.
The factory my dad worked at closed five years ago. His effective income probably decreased by 20%-30%. This factory was bought out by another company, which rehired some of the workers, but at a considerable decrease in pay/benefits. Many of his former coworkers either dropped out of the labor force or are working retail/fast food.
I believe many people, far more than is known and documented, are either on the streets, squatting, in homeless shelters, or kill themselves. With our lack of support structure in this country, the hopelessness of getting back in the labor force past a certain age, and bad local economies when you don't have the resources to move, suicide is a viable option.
You know I read a lot of this, particularly here at C-D , and I just brush it off that these people are just rationalizing, or deliberately narrow their focus so they just see the good, believe the spin that confirms their political biases (whatever those may be)...... or think one bad example (like in the anecedote) is an excuse to generalize, and the brush off the issue.
I can understand that the media doesnt dwell on this because its a story without the happy ending, but I want to face the reality and here what REALLY happens to people.
For example, we had a series of big plant shutdowns here in Dayton, over the 2000s, culminating with the shutdown of a big GM assembly plant....this was profiled in the documentary [url=http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1487120/]The Last Truck[/url=
So, what happened to those worker?. Were did they end up? How did they end up? And what happens to them 5 year out, 10 years out, 15 years out, after they lost their jobs?
Nary a peep.
Stuff like that, the REAL story of the fallout of the downsizing of America.
The story of maybe one factory and what happens to the workers, both white and blue collar, over time. This story has NOT been told.
It's very true and disheartening that the story hasn't been told. What is disgraceful is at-will employment, or as Robert_B noted it as "right to fire" which means an employer does not need cause to fire someone. WI is also an at-will state.
I know people here in WI who were let go a year before they were to receive their pensions or right before other benefits kicked in. It's disgusting! I agree with Emigrations that many of the displaced workers who are not able to find new employment are homeless, on public assistance, living with a friend/family members or have killed themselves.
We need to stop buying foreign made products. I remember an episode of Oprah where 3 families removed all the furniture and items in their home and put them outside and not one of the items was American made. If jobs don't return to the US, we're screwed. Check out this website to find American made products. http://www.americansworking.com/
We need to stop buying foreign made products. I remember an episode of Oprah where 3 families removed all the furniture and items in their home and put them outside and not one of the items was American made. If jobs don't return to the US, we're screwed. Check out this website to find American made products. Made in the USA Products Directory
You're the first person I've seen mention this since 2005.
I think USA is screwed already, too bad for me, I m new in the USA and can not find employment.
there won't be job for everybody, this mean that available jobs will pay very low.
they way to go is to get out of the expensive USA., you can live in Indian for 50$ a month, all included. you have Birma as well which is nice. there is Africa too , you can live in the trees for free.
I think USA is screwed already, too bad for me, I m new in the USA and can not find employment.
there won't be job for everybody, this mean that available jobs will pay very low.
they way to go is to get out of the expensive USA., you can live in Indian for 50$ a month, all included. you have Birma as well which is nice. there is Africa too , you can live in the trees for free.
Living in trees won't relinquish my student loan debt.
Living in trees won't relinquish my student loan debt.
Now, if it did, I'd reconsider.
file bankruptcy son.... or sell dishes like uncle rico
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