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The question is: who's responsible for cleaning the building. There has to be something in place. Is it the employee's job? Because if so, that may be why they don't seem to care. I'm not above rolling up my shirt sleeves but I wouldn't be the designated maid.
What sends up the red flags here is the health of the building. If a building is sick, you'll be sick being inside the building. Let's face it, you don't have to eat there and you can sanitize one restroom stall, probably. You can keep your little area clean (maybe it will rub off) so if the job pays well and you're interested, I'd still take it. But if there is mildew in the air conditioning system (do they even change the filters?) and nasty carpet and moldy features, it might be flat out unhealthy.
It sounds like most posters on this thread have only worked for small companies.
Money for the building is not wage and benefit money. Completely separate.
When I worked for the then Fortune 1 company it was the oldest and dirtiest place I ever worked. Chairs older than I was. I had great pay and benefits. They wouldn't put a dime into the building unless they had to.
I don't remember anyone ever quitting because of that.
+1. You should see the rathole I work in. But it's a lucrative rathole, and I don't ever see myself departing voluntarily.
In a past career, I did extensive visiting of various work environments...and I'm kind of thinking there is a touch of entitlement going on here. Find out about the actual job, not whether the on-site butler will get you a flask of beverage
I think at that point I would've just asked to go to the bathroom and left. The company sounds like a joke if it can't even keep up a semi-decent work environment.
Today I had an interview with a company and as soon as I got there and walked inside, I was appalled at how nasty and filthy the place was. The receptionist let me use the bathroom and on the way there, I had to walk down this hall way and the carpet was disgusting with mildew and stains all over, and the paint on the walls was chipping. In the bathroom there was mold. The whole place had a musty smell to it and things were not that organized.
The whole interior of the building was very......strange. It felt extremely claustrophobic. The halls were very narrow, the walls were bright yellow, which drove me crazy. And the conference room that we had the interview in was extremely outdated. The chairs had hair and lint all over them. I was just disgusted by the lack of cleanliness and lack of any sort of modernization of the entire facility.
I just can't picture myself working in an environment like that.
Has anyone else had a similar experience?
2002. Got placed by an agency with a smallish company called ITM Solutions. Was in a small office in a larger building. Office was run down, carpets dirty, all crammed in there together. Not ideal.
Got a large contract and they moved to another space that was a lot larger and a lot nicer.
2003. Got a job at a financial company. Building was way behind the times, floors icky, roof falling apart, etc.
Company made billions and moved to a larger space, fully customized, nicely decked out. Was at the time the most fixed salary I'd ever made.
My point: if the company has at least a chance to grow and go somewhere, you might actually end up better off than being a number at some high-swing company that has ultra nice buildings but doesn't care about its employees. My best experiences have been at small-to-medium companies that were in a state of growth, despite how crummy their building might have been.
My first job out of grad school I walked in for the interview and was like wtf?! It was in a basement, worst part of town, obnoxious old school cheap fluorescent lighting, no windows, trashy bathroom, etc.
But my would be boss was a peach and they gave me a flexible schedule. (I assume they didn't get many good applicants.) I was happy to work there due to those reasons.
Yeah I know. Compared to where I currently work, it's like night and day. My current job is located in an office building with beautifully landscaped grounds, adequate lighting, nice carpeting, parking garage, and is reasonably up to date in appearance. Maybe I'm spoiled, but seriously, the place I interviewed at today was disgusting. Also, the job pay is estimated to be about 15% less than fair market value, which sucks.
Go ahead and take the job. Let us know if the estimated 15% less pay was correct and why you were looking for another
job.
Many years ago I worked for a midsize very prestigious company. Top floor of a highrise in Midtown Manhattan, luxurious building, dedicated elevator, mahogany desk, some rare wood paneling in the conference room, all kinds of exotic training programs, gourmet catering for meetings, even staff meetings. Company went out of business after a while.
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