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Old 12-24-2017, 07:45 AM
 
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no, makes me sick they are even out in society..scum of the earth
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Old 12-24-2017, 08:50 AM
 
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Registered? He probably has a better chance and reason to be on his best behavior.

I know I've worked with offenders who were not registered, as they were never charged or convicted. Every where.
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Old 12-24-2017, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania & New Jersey
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Default Not a Litmus Test

Would I hire a registered sex offender? Maybe, maybe not. But for the same reasons given by others (Catgirl, Murk, etc.) I certainly wouldn't make it a litmus test that disqualifies someone from my employment.

I am more concerned with unregistered sex offenders — like a guy who's sired fifteen kids among a harem of nine women or a power player who thinks he's above boundaries.
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Old 12-24-2017, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Depends on the offense. There's a big difference between a rapist and a guy who got drunk and stupid and peed in an alley at 19.
Yep. My thoughts exactly. It will all depend on the reason why someone is a registered sex offender. Note, I'd even make the same point of an 18 year old who has sex with a 16 or 17 year old, despite the fact that both were in a relationship before the older party turned 18. In some jurisdictions, such activity, if prosecuted, would make one a sex offender, which I strongly disagree with.
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Old 12-24-2017, 10:00 AM
 
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Yes I would.

It obviously depends on the crime and the job, but I don’t see any problem in employing a low-level sex offendor in most positions.

By low level I mean people busted for stupid things like public nudity, an 18 year old having sex with his/her 16 year old bf/gf, minors exchanging nude selfies between one another, that type of thing. These things really should not be crimes in the first place, certainly not crimes that require registering on a public shaming list for life.

In theory, I don’t have any issues with violent sex offenders or child molestors getting appropriate jobs. Before people jump all over me, I find those crimes heinous, and I worry about the possibility of recidivism. The reality is that there are people out there who have done their time and been released. Should we remove all ability to earn a living from them and force them into addition crime to feed themselves?

Off the top of my head, it seems that jobs where they have limited contact with their victim group might be ok. Perhaps truck driving? Commercial fisherman? Heavy equipment operator on a construction crew?

Being realistic, we have people on the street right now who have been released. Is having them work go8ng to increase their chances of reoffending?
I would love to have someone like you as my manager! You don't seem to make knee-jerk decisions.
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Old 12-24-2017, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Raleigh
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14 year old girl facing child porn charges for her own selfie
The first post has a link to the news article.
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Old 12-24-2017, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Raleigh
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What makes a sex offense so much worse than any other crime? Assault, embezzlement, theft? My daughter works for a company that does background checks for employers and it takes some digging to find out about other crimes. You want to hire any of them? Remember, there is a spectrum of offense for crimes of all kinds, and sentences relative to the severity. Sex offenders are punished for life by the public registry.
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Old 12-24-2017, 10:38 AM
 
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I wouldn't hire any type of criminal. Why take the chance with anyone who has a criminal record? There is a glut of workers anyway so employers can pick and choose.
I'm surprised to see so many people are saying they will considering I have seen people not get jobs for having marijuana in their system or misdemeanors that are more than 5 years old.
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Old 12-24-2017, 11:04 AM
 
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I would love to have someone like you as my manager! You don't seem to make knee-jerk decisions.
Thank you. I try to be thoughtful and treat people respectfully.

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What makes a sex offense so much worse than any other crime? Assault, embezzlement, theft? My daughter works for a company that does background checks for employers and it takes some digging to find out about other crimes. You want to hire any of them? Remember, there is a spectrum of offense for crimes of all kinds, and sentences relative to the severity. Sex offenders are punished for life by the public registry.
I tentatively agree. Some sex offenses are victimless, or of such a minor consequence that we can mostly disregard them. In this category I would put public nudity, an adolescent sending nude selfies, two adolescents of similar age engaging in consensual sexual activity. I don’t support lifelong registries for this type of thing.

Some crimes have a low chance of recurring, or cause relatively minimal harm. A creep groping people on the subway, revenge porn, peeping toms. Sentence these people to some sort of punishment, increase the penalty if they do it again, but otherwise treat the incident much like any other crime.

Sexual assault, child molestation, trafficking minors and the like are different because of the long term damage that can be caused to the victims, and I am ok with harsher punishments. Prison time, mandatory counseling, and restrictions on future activities are all ok. We disbar lawyers for sufficiently harmful behaviour, take away medical licenses, and restrict people from working in financial services for banking crimes, I think that sexual offenses should be treated similarly. Restrict their contact with the victim group.

The worst offenders with high chances to reoffend can be locked up indefinitely. But short of this stage, the ability to find appropriate employment is a good thing. It stops them from being future criminals because they have no other means of supporting themselves.
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Old 12-24-2017, 11:07 AM
 
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I'm surprised to see so many people are saying they will considering I have seen people not get jobs for having marijuana in their system or misdemeanors that are more than 5 years old.
Well, I am consistent. I am willing to hire people with misdemeanors, and I don’t do drug testing.

My attitude on drugs is that it is none of my business what employees do in their own time. If it begins to impact their job performance, then I care.
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