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Read her older posts. She is. Out of date information. I don't know of a single Long Island district that offers merit pay. That issue has been debated for the past 40 years. Pay is based on years of "credited" service plus educational level. It doesn't matter what kind of score the teacher got on the Danielson scale. Other states outside of the northeast, with or without unions, will arbitrarily decide that teacher salaries are going to be frozen at a specific step and they remain at that level for years no matter how many years the teacher has been teaching. Job for life because of tenure? NYC teachers have to wait a minimum of 18 months to get a hearing in Brooklyn if they wish to fight termination because there is such a huge back log of teachers with tenure being dismissed. Maybe they deserve it, maybe not, but tenure only guarantees due process, not a job for life. NYC teachers do pay very little for their medical insurance and $70 per month for dental and prescriptions, but it's only GHI, while Long Island teachers contribute 12% of their salary (15% for the family plan) for Blue Cross medical insurance. It's definitely not free.
One thing not mentioned, there are several states, including CA and CT, that give teachers a pension, but they do not deduct SS so upon retirement, teachers only collect a pension, no social security. If the teacher had a previous career outside of teaching where s.s. was deducted or their spouse had s.s. and they want to collect spousal benefits, they are screwed by the Windfall tax.
Exactly. I also question whether or not they’ve ever taught.
My sister was a special ed teacher in Denver Colorado with a Phd.
She began her job at the age of 28 and retired at the age of 58 with a $60,000 pension with medical. She was pissed that she had to pay $300 a month for a Cadillac policy.
She was quite adamant for her reasons for going into teaching. All the time off. She took Special Ed since it paid more.
Yes, she complained about all the work she had to do, however, I always found that suspect given her reasons for entering the teaching field.
A pension of $60,000. Not bad.
I now substitute teach. I get paid $12.75 an hour, no benefits. In an inner city school system. It is my part time retirement job. Don't feel sorry for me. I know I am there for all the time off too. Anyhoo, not much teaching gets done anyway due to the discipline issues that have to be addressed continually.
Just the other day one of my students stuffed his pants with paper towels to augment his manliness. Porn star big. He did it just for me and, of course, for the titillation of his peers.
My sister said she got out at 58 because that type of behavior was becoming rampant. I think she just wanted out. Her school was in a high wage suburban setting.
Nuff said.
That $60,000 benefit would be the equivalent of $1.5 million at a 4% safe withdrawal rate. There is no way she could have accumulated that level of wealth on her salary.
Pay for teachers has improved a lot in my lifetime. When I was in the 5th grade, we had a very good teacher, with a master's degree and ten years of experience. One day when she left the classroom, she accidentally dropped her monthly pay statement. Before I ran after her to return it, I took a look. Her take-home pay was $262.
When a friend, who's three years younger than I, started teaching at age 24, his gross pay was $440. per month. His wife also taught and they managed to scrape-by financially. I remember helping them move once and the only reason, was that the rent was $15. cheaper. They're retired now, with eight income-streams between them, that give an estimated $160 thousand per year, made possible by the much higher salaries they got, the last 25 years of their careers. That's two separate Soc Sec checks, two school retirement checks, two checks from their 401K accounts and two sets of stock dividends.
One thing not mentioned, there are several states, including CA and CT, that give teachers a pension, but they do not deduct SS so upon retirement, teachers only collect a pension, no social security.
Golly gee, how they're ripped off... instead of the pittance SS provides, they get a pension riding on the backs of the taxpayer of close to if not their full salary for decades. The poor things!
If that's some kind of "punishment", why can't I opt out of Socialist inSecurity and keep the $15,000 or so they take from me every year? I'd gladly invest that and live with what happens.
Pay for teachers has improved a lot in my lifetime. When I was in the 5th grade, we had a very good teacher, with a master's degree and ten years of experience. One day when she left the classroom, she accidentally dropped her monthly pay statement. Before I ran after her to return it, I took a look. Her take-home pay was $262.
When a friend, who's three years younger than I, started teaching at age 24, his gross pay was $440. per month. His wife also taught and they managed to scrape-by financially. I remember helping them move once and the only reason, was that the rent was $15. cheaper. They're retired now, with eight income-streams between them, that give an estimated $160 thousand per year, made possible by the much higher salaries they got, the last 25 years of their careers. That's two separate Soc Sec checks, two school retirement checks, two checks from their 401K accounts and two sets of stock dividends.
Pay for almost everything has improved a lot over the last 50 years, or 100 years, or 200 years.
When I left industry I was making $25K year as a low level manager. I left that job due to industry instability and worked for a short line railroad at $18K. I took that job due to representations made when I was hired that never occurred. I left that for a commission in the Navy where I made, with the nontaxable BAQ, almost $30K
I then went back to industry and the bottom dropped out so I got a teaching job in a much higher COL area at $13.8K, that was early 1984.
I retired after 31 years with a Master's in Administration although I stayed in the classroom. My last year I made just under $84K.
That $84K adjusted for inflation is about $13K less than the $25K I was making 40 years earlier.
One thing not mentioned, there are several states, including CA and CT, that give teachers a pension, but they do not deduct SS so upon retirement, teachers only collect a pension, no social security. If the teacher had a previous career outside of teaching where s.s. was deducted or their spouse had s.s. and they want to collect spousal benefits, they are screwed by the Windfall tax.
MA is like that too. My wife is a teacher here. No SS deduction at all, and a mandatory 11% contribution into the retirement fund.
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