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Old 10-21-2021, 12:32 PM
 
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Originally Posted by MSchemist80 View Post
Having troubles getting smart hard working science grads to work for $15-20 hr contact no benefits nor PTO?
That's the usual suspects whining about the "worker shortage"

It can't be THEIR fault that they underpay, treat their people like crap and give no to crap benefits.

Blame the "worker shortage"
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Old 10-21-2021, 12:35 PM
 
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How about replacing some of your retoric with reality?
I tell the truth. If you can't handle it, not my fault.

50% of class of 2020 are jobless
https://www.q13fox.com/news/nearly-5...ss-survey-says

A survey by monster - which deals with the job market as a whole

41% of college grads working Mcjobs
https://www.insidehighered.com/quick...quiring-degree

Let's see. 50+41 = 91%

I know, math is hard for some people.

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Old 10-21-2021, 01:02 PM
 
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Really?

50% of class of 2020 are jobless
https://www.q13fox.com/news/nearly-5...ss-survey-says

A survey by monster - which deals with the job market as a whole

41% of college grads working Mcjobs
https://www.insidehighered.com/quick...quiring-degree

Let's see. 50+41 = 91%

I know, math is hard for some people.
Why are you sending news stories that are a year and a half old? The economy is in a FAR different place than it was in early to mid 2020. Kind of hard to prove a point with stats that old.
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Old 10-21-2021, 02:26 PM
 
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I tell the truth. If you can't handle it, not my fault.

50% of class of 2020 are jobless
https://www.q13fox.com/news/nearly-5...ss-survey-says

A survey by monster - which deals with the job market as a whole

41% of college grads working Mcjobs
https://www.insidehighered.com/quick...quiring-degree

Let's see. 50+41 = 91%

I know, math is hard for some people.

Yeah, I'm not going to put a lot of creedence into a Monster.com survey of 1000 people, as it is a wesite that only people looking for jobs go to. So, it would not surpise me at all, that almost half of the people going to monster.com are unemployed. But, in no way does it mean that almost 50% of recent grads are unemployed.
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Old 10-21-2021, 04:18 PM
 
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Totally for real, particularly for hourly and blue collar jobs.

For white collar jobs, it’s a tight market, but also a mismatched one. Covid/vaxx policies, WFH openness, and unwillingness to move, too high of expectations are all playing into things
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Old 10-21-2021, 05:59 PM
 
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I tell the truth. If you can't handle it, not my fault.

50% of class of 2020 are jobless
https://www.q13fox.com/news/nearly-5...ss-survey-says

A survey by monster - which deals with the job market as a whole

41% of college grads working Mcjobs
https://www.insidehighered.com/quick...quiring-degree

Let's see. 50+41 = 91%

I know, math is hard for some people.
Your sources are awesome.
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Old 10-21-2021, 06:34 PM
 
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If people aren't working how do they pay their bills? Stimulus and unemployment don't even come close to paying my bills. If you're relying on the govt then you probably weren't much of go-getter in the first place and who the hell wants an employee like that anyway.
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Old 10-21-2021, 07:45 PM
 
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It’s not just the old There are no jobs or There are no workers.
Jobs descriptions and Human Resources gave been redefined, and there are fewer matches to be had.
Businesses have downsized, and expect employees to do more for less.
I wouldn’t even call them employees because they are treating them like contractors.
Every business in my town has a help wanted sign
But with fine print.
Less than 35 hours, means part time no benefits.
Weird shifts and you cannot leave till your relief arrives
Bilingual so you can serve those pouring into the town but still help the older residents.
Our big box stores Only take Disney style workers (well groomed, big smile, bright eyes 20ish )
Equity preferences preferred to satisfy HR and our State.

None of the jobs advertised would be considered careers or a stepping stone to something greater.
The trades are being treated the same way. Show up when and we’re we tell you, for this amount, period.
No heath care, vacation, overtime, insurance, supplies, just cash, maybe.

Auto parts store used to have these little vans bopping around. Not any more, want to be a delivery drivers bring your own car.

Local pizza place, the same thing expecting kids to burn up the family sedan for tips.
All quit during Covid to work doing Uber Eats for twice the cash and no crap about delivering cold.
food.

And a good number of these were being paid by our state to just stay home.

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Old 10-21-2021, 09:38 PM
 
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Really?

50% of class of 2020 are jobless
https://www.q13fox.com/news/nearly-5...ss-survey-says

A survey by monster - which deals with the job market as a whole

41% of college grads working Mcjobs
https://www.insidehighered.com/quick...quiring-degree

Let's see. 50+41 = 91%

I know, math is hard for some people.

*rolls eyes*

You deny that a catch-22 exists, as do most people here. And nobody has a solution to the catch-22 except to look down on the people who got hit by it and judge them harshly.

We get the person who found a job with no experience recently because someone gave them a chance denying there is no catch-22. This is like a lottery winner who claims to be a self-made millionaire.

We got the person who got their entry level job 20+ years ago when they still existed, and denying the catch-22 doesn't exist - even though they haven't looked for a job lately.

We got the person who graduated from a top school, telling people "just go to Harvard"

We got people who's path cannot be replicated by others. But they say "do as I did! all is rainbows and unicorns"
From your own link:

The December 2019 unemployment rate for individuals aged 22 to 27 with a bachelor’s degree or higher was, at 3.9 percent, slightly higher than the 3.6 percent unemployment rate for all workers between the ages of 16 and 65. However, it was lower than the 6.5 percent unemployment rate for 22- to 27-year-olds without a four-year degree. The unemployment rate for all college graduates up to age 65 was 2.2 percent.

Here's a thought for others who might read this thread. Who is the better source for advice on getting a job: someone who only complains that the couldn't get what they wanted or those who actually have job openings; who actually read resumes; and who actually hire people?
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Old 10-21-2021, 09:45 PM
 
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Here's a thought for others who might read this thread. Who is the better source for advice on getting a job: someone who only complains that the couldn't get what they wanted or those who actually have job openings; who actually read resumes; and who actually hire people?
Or how about who is better at helping you find a job:

* someone who denies the catch-22 exists versus
* someone who has a solution to the catch-22

Yeah. You know the answer.

That's why if someone is hit by the catch-22, nobody here will help you here, just look down on you and judge you harshly. Here, either people deny the catch-22 exists or have no solution to the catch-22. Either which way, you are judged harshly.
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