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Old 11-14-2012, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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And why would they? English speakers were there before the Spanish speakers. Many of the Spanish speakers are illegals sponging off the US economy as-well. (many who REFUSE to speak English)

I am proud to be from to an English speaking country and if immigrants ever become a majority in my country I will do my best to keep my language in existence!
I am not entirely in disagreement with you, and I can understand that some people feel a bit edgy about the push for Spanish. That said, beyond the obvious absurdity of *requiring* Americans to speak English in order to live in their own country (which I am far from suggesting here), it is a bit odd to have most of the anglos who make up barely 5% of 15% of the population of a mainly Hispanic city but who haven't picked up the slightest bit of Spanish just by living there.
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Old 11-14-2012, 03:12 PM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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HELLO?! History check! Spanish speakers were in Florida, Texas, New Mexico and California hundreds of years before English speakers.

Oh well.
Irish speakers were in Northern Ireland before English speakers. Are you going to tell us to speak Irish now too.

You BETTER NOT.
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Old 11-14-2012, 03:53 PM
 
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These are apples and oranges I think.

The Spanish speakers in the U.S. you refer to are native speakers, as are the Turkish speakers in Austria. The German speakers in French are for the most part second language speakers - people who speak German in addition to their native French.
this is a good point.

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There aren't any cities or regions in Austria where people of Turkish origin would be 70, 80 or 90% of the population. In the U.S., you actually have large cities where Hispanics make up that percentage of the population.

Miami is 70% hispanic, and is to my knowledge the only major city in America that's over 50% hispanic.
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Old 11-14-2012, 03:54 PM
 
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And why would they? English speakers were there before the Spanish speakers. Many of the Spanish speakers are illegals sponging off the US economy as-well. (many who REFUSE to speak English)

I am proud to be from to an English speaking country and if immigrants ever become a majority in my country I will do my best to keep my language in existence!

your proud to be from an english speaking country

you might aswell be proud to be from a country where it rains every other day of the year , like you had anything to do with it
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:45 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Irish speakers were in Northern Ireland before English speakers. Are you going to tell us to speak Irish now too.

You BETTER NOT.
I wasn't telling anyone to do anything. I was responding to an erroneous statement. Chill.
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Europe
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This thread make me wonder something else, the big amount of Spanish names that USA has like: Las Vegas, Colorado, Florida, Tejas (Texas) San Francisco, Sacramento, El Paso, Cabo Cañaveral...

Do Americans know what these words mean apart from places names? I don't want to offend I just wonder if it is studied or not.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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this is a good point.




Miami is 70% hispanic, and is to my knowledge the only major city in America that's over 50% hispanic.
There are quite a few with over 100,000 people. El Paso, Texas is not a well known city globally but it has around 700,000 people. LA is close to 50% and Dallas and Houston are moving in on 50%. Even New York is around 25% Hispanic I think.

List of U.S. cities with large Hispanic populations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:15 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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I've noticed this fact always I've travelled... in fact I know a very very very few English native speakers who learn another language.
I was living in the UK and I met many people, smart people with lots of studies and who have travelled a lot but they were monolingual... more or less happened in USA, where the multiculture is everywhere.

Any reason? Is not compulsory at school the study of a second language?
because they feel they don't have to.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Everyone is not as "intelligent" as you.
It's not a question of being more intelligent, but of being genuinely interested in other cultures.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:22 PM
 
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This thread make me wonder something else, the big amount of Spanish names that USA has like: Las Vegas, Colorado, Florida, Tejas (Texas) San Francisco, Sacramento, El Paso, Cabo Cañaveral...

Do Americans know what these words mean apart from places names? I don't want to offend I just wonder if it is studied or not.

In general no.

Most people know San This or That I think. Las Vegas pretty much no one will know. El Paso I'd say about half would know. Montana no one would even know is an Spanish word. Shoot I thought Texas and Florida were Indian names. Which is also a difficulty with parts of the West. We might think a place name is Spanish because it sounds like someplace in Mexico, but in reality both are Indian names that held over.

Never heard of Cabo Canaveral. Is that Cape Canaveral formerly Cape Kennedy formerly Cape Canaveral?
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