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No, it isn't. People pay big $$$ to live in a neighbourhood with good primary schools. Unthinkable over here.
State universities suck(with a few exceptions) and for my liking there are a few too many uncertainties in your statement(which I conveniently marked bold for you).
There are around 50 million people in the US without health insurance, many more that are under insured and even those that are insured pay big $$$ for treatment. I have heard first hand Dutch people having to pay 8500$ in the US for giving birth despite having 'full health insurance' from their employer. Unthinkable over here. Don't even get me started on health care in the US.
@hobbes: Don't put words in my mouth that I never said and make a coherent story. I don't have the time to reply to all that.
Yeah, I was born and raised in America, but by all means you know more than me! I should start educating you about the Netherlands, dumb____
The person above proves that ignorance and arrogance goes far beyond only Americans lol.
@hobbes: Don't put words in my mouth that I never said and make a coherent story. I don't have the time to reply to all that.
Yes, because you have no evidence to support any of your claims. You make grossly exaggerated claims, and provide zero evidence to support them. When evidence proving you wrong is presented, you switch the argument to something else. You're doing right above this post with more misinformed assertions.
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State universities suck(with a few exceptions) and for my liking there are a few too many uncertainties in your statement(which I conveniently marked bold for you).
You clearly have absolutely no idea what in-state tuition means. And how can anyone claim that "state universities" suck "with few exceptions". Just a ridiculous claim drro. That must be why people come from all over the world to go to them.
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No, it isn't. People pay big $$$ to live in a neighbourhood with good primary schools. Unthinkable over here.
So because people pay more money to live in a better neighborhood with better schools, that means that education isn't free? What? Dutch people don't pay more money to live in better areas? Why do Dutch people make sure their kids go to different schools than those attended by recent immigrants?
Yes, because you have no evidence to support any of your claims. You make grossly exaggerated claims, and provide zero evidence to support them. When evidence proving you wrong is presented, you switch the argument to something else. You're doing right above this post with more misinformed assertions.
You clearly have absolutely no idea what in-state tuition means. And how can anyone claim that "state universities" suck "with few exceptions". Just a ridiculous claim drro. That must be why people come from all over the world to go to them.
So because people pay more money to live in a better neighborhood with better schools, that means that education isn't free? What? Dutch people don't pay more money to live in better areas? Why do Dutch people make sure their kids go to different schools than those attended by recent immigrants?
We as Americans shouldn't argue with people from inferior countries for too long.
Life in the US and in Europe is not all that different. I grew up and spent the first 35 years of my life in San Diego. I have been living in Germany for 14 years. I prefer it here but really it´s not all that different.
State universities suck(with a few exceptions) and for my liking there are a few too many uncertainties in your statement(which I conveniently marked bold for you).
More than just a few exceptions. All the state universities in California are very good, a couple of them are among the US' top universities. Michigan has good state universities. The University of Washington (Seattle), and the U of Oregon are good schools. New York's extensive public university system is excellent. In the meantime, several European countries' universities are considered to be languishing, in serious need of modernizing the curriculum and improving the quality of instruction. But they're free. meh. I guess you get what you pay for.
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There are around 50 million people in the US without health insurance, many more that are under insured
Not anymore. You'd better brush up on current events in the US.
Having health coverage doesn't mean anything, necessarily. It doesn't do any good to have coverage if the doctors don't provide a service, or if your wait for an apppointment + another wait for treatment are so long, that you die before you get treatment. I know working-class people in Europe who always keep money set aside to pay for private doctors, because they say the docs in the state system don't take patient concerns seriously.
Education is free in America, so that's tough to beat lol. When it comes to universities, if you go to a university in your state, you get in-state tuition, which is very cheap, plus you can get financial aid (most people qualify) and some may even get a free ride and then some extra money for housing.
Healthcare is expensive as hell in America. However, the quality of it is terrific. I saw a report (don't have the link anymore) that shows success rates for different diseases per country. America was #1 in every single disease. The problem is some people cannot afford health insurance, so it's a catch 22. I lived a few years in Australia and I actually support a universal healthcare system similar to the ones in Europe and Australia. I would like a system similar to America's school system where you have free public healthcare and private insurance for private doctors for those who want premium care. I pay $310/month for health insurance and have a $1,500 deductable. Once I spend $1,500 in one year, I only have to pay 20% of my medical costs for that year.
Once again, everything is NOT black and white as many people here tend to believe on both sides of aisle!
Sorry, as an American I will have to disagree with one of your points here. You do get a discount for in state tuition vs if you are attending another state's state schools, however it is still ridiculously expensive, even at State Universities. Prices have gone up exponentially in the last 30 years, it's extremely difficult for the average family to put even 1 child through college. Can't say the status of European colleges/universities and what they pay, because I honestly don't know.
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