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Old 06-01-2018, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Yes, city-data is likely to zap all the chatter in French in 5-4-3-2...
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Old 06-01-2018, 12:50 PM
 
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Yes, city-data is likely to zap all the chatter in French in 5-4-3-2...
What if World Forum has un statut bilingue like Pontiac?

Oh Acajack, I was just thumbing through Citydata's Bill 101 and found in article 29.5 something that is reassuring for us:


Citydata
shall recognize as multilingual, at the request of a user, the online-community or another member:
a forum, where it provides topics to persons who, in the majority, speak a language other than English.
Citydata may, at the request of a user who is convinced that a forum no longer satisfies the condition which enabled it to obtain the recognition of the website, withdraw such recognition if it considers it appropriate in the circumstances and after having consulted the administration.

In the recognized forums, two persons may use what language they choose in written communications to one another. However, all members must, at the request of a person required to consult such a communication in the course of his duties, prepare an English version of it.

Alors, nous pouvons continuer à bavarder comme il nous plaît. So, we must all obey the law, whether we like it or not.

How was your weekend in Montréal, you said you spent some time there, didn't you? Was it more or less amazing than Toronto, Sydney, Milan and Madrid?
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Old 06-01-2018, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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What if World Forum has un statut bilingue like Pontiac?

Oh Acajack, I was just thumbing through Citydata's Bill 101 and found in article 29.5 something that is reassuring for us:

Citydata shall recognize as multilingual, at the request of a user, the online-community or another member:
a forum, where it provides topics to persons who, in the majority, speak a language other than English.
Citydata may, at the request of a user who is convinced that a forum no longer satisfies the condition which enabled it to obtain the recognition of the website, withdraw such recognition if it considers it appropriate in the circumstances and after having consulted the administration.

In the recognized forums, two persons may use what language they choose in written communications to one another. However, all members must, at the request of a person required to consult such a communication in the course of his duties, prepare an English version of it.

Alors, nous pouvons continuer à bavarder comme il nous plaît. So, we must all obey the law, whether we like it or not.

Peu importe. En principe, les modérateurs ici suppriment tous les messages dans les langues autres que l'anglais dès qu'ils en prennent connaissance.
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Old 06-01-2018, 01:17 PM
 
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Peu importe. En principe, les modérateurs ici suppriment tous les messages dans les langues autres que l'anglais dès qu'ils en prennent connaissance.
Not necessarily if there's a new liberal government here. You know, laws can change if the interpretation changes.

Vraiment? As-tu vu beaucoup de messages disparaître, les tiens inclus?
Really? Does it even apply if such messages are marked predominantly like this one?
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Old 06-01-2018, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Not necessarily if there's a new liberal government here. You know, laws can change if the interpretation changes.

Vraiment? As-tu vu beaucoup de messages disparaître, les tiens inclus?
Really? Does it even apply if such messages are marked predominantly like this one?
Je n'écris pas souvent en français ici mais quand je le fais, c'est toujours supprimé avant longtemps.
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Old 06-01-2018, 01:59 PM
 
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Je n'écris pas souvent en français ici mais quand je le fais, c'est toujours supprimé avant longtemps.
Ce n'est pas juste. I'm not surprised at all, that's how it always has been ever since the British ruled Canada, nothing changed since then. Je te propose d'écrire comme ça.
We have to pay attention to the law.
Maybe Acajack, you just forgot to request a special permission?
This is a further extract from its Bill 101:

Citydata may determine, by regulation, the cases, conditions or circumstances where public posts may be in another language.
Where it is in the public interest, a moderator, with the prior authorization of the Citydata website, may issue a restricted permit to a person already authorized under the laws of another forum to publish his posts in a language other than English. This restricted permit authorizes its holder to publish his posts in the language of his or her choice. Such permits are valid for a renewable period of not more than five years. While such a permit remains in force, the user is deemed to be complying with the provisions of the general laws.

Do you have such a permit or not?
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Old 06-01-2018, 03:46 PM
 
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Oh yeah, look at my city, it's cooler than yours because we got more laneways, graffitis and cafes and we pretend to be European"...when in reality Melbourne is full of bogans, they are obsessed with Sydney and they have lately some issues with African gangs.
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I don't live in either, so have no vested interest in the debate.

The 'European' thing with Melbourne is really from a different era; the post WW2 period when its migrant population was both large and essentially European and there were a lot of suburbs, neighborhoods, and parts of the CBD that were readily identifiable with different national or ethnic groups.

Crime? There definitely seems to be cycles in the way crime is reported. Its wan't that long ago that those types of stories mostly came out of Sydney.
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Old 06-01-2018, 03:54 PM
 
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When you're talking about urbanity, you have to keep in mind that inner Sydney and its CBD isn't half the story - there are literally dozens of urban cores of varying sizes spread everywhere around the metro. What's more is that most of Sydney's major shopping malls and commerical buildings are integrated right into these areas with active street frontages, so the larger of these feel like little downtowns of their own.

I'll encourage you to go on Google Maps and look around Sydney a bit. Since almost all of these areas are built right around a transit hub, a good starting point will be to follow the train lines, and you'll find that at most train stations there'll be a main street or a 'downtown' of some sort built right around it. Parramatta, Hurstville, the Strathfield-Burwood-Ashfield area, Auburn, Campsie, Eastwood, Bondi Junction, the areas in the vids in the link above, etc etc.
Agreed. Its quite different from even other Australian cities in that way, particularly with areas like Parramatta and some of the mini CBDs on the north shore.
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Old 06-01-2018, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Wow are you quick .... I deleted my post as I thought .... no just fagetaboutit and let it go.... dang it you already saved it ....
No big deal homie
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Old 06-01-2018, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Oh Fusion..is that what they told you in Ontarian history classes and the English-speaking wikipedia?
Montréal was Canada's first urban and metropolitan city; it has developed a highly sophisticated, exclusive, pompous & culturally elaborate scene.
While Montréalais were reading high class British literature and paying attention to French theater and organizing the Olympics and exchanges with European avant garde cities, Torontorians had lower alphabetization rates and they were out of touch with Europe's cultural scene and totally overloaded with US-American pop culture. Probably, the adjustement of Toronto to the US and imitation of a US American typical skyline helped Toronto to become a gate to America.

I would describe and equal Montréal at this time back then with a very trendy discothèque that paid attention to whoever was entering. Most of these migrants who came to Toronto actually never wanted to come to Toronto but they were previously rejected in Montréal, so Toronto became their second choice.
So population in Toronto was rising and nearing the levels of Montréal's metro in the late 60s, yet quality is still more important than the sheer number of people.
In the 1970s finally Montréal had a difficult choice to make: Should it stay the largest & most important Canadian city and consequently turn into an Anglophone city with dull skyscrapers as it was impossible to be the number one and francophone at the same time, or should it allow Toronto to take the crown and stay French for a few more decades?
Montréal opted for the second option and thanks to Montréal, Toronto became the largest city.
That was not Toronto's achievement, it was the generosity and socialist spirit of Montréal that allowed Toronto to take this honour.
Even nowadays, we are sending qualified people who went to McGill to Toronto, and we help with our taxes businesses to relocate and choose Toronto. So the biggest contributor to Toronto's top position always was and continues to be Montréal. Torontarians should be more thankful.
Also, after the greedy businesses went to Toronto, we got more space and time for festivals, restaurants and developping our arts scene. We will always remain the most sophisticated city in North America.
Dear Fusion from Usuariadildo and Oh Fusion from QC Opec. How perfect lol.. I think you started to see elements of a more grand and emerging Toronto in the twenties with Union Station and The Royal York. Toronto built the first subway system in Canada in the 50's.. Mies Van Der Rohe's TD Centre and Viljo Revell in the 60's are all evidence of a more grand and emerging metropolis. Not to mention The Toronto Stock exchange became the largest in Canada in the 40's - so yeah it was well before the 70's While I would agree prior to WWII Montreal was the more ornate city and had better examples of grand architecture - you shouldn't just gloss over Toronto's Pre WWII architecture. I also recommend you read up on the work of E.J Lennox.

Otherwise I stick by what I said. Most of what you said is like cotton candy - looks like a lot but isn't very substantive. Perhaps you could learn a lot from the Ontario History class...
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