Classification of nationality? (fit in, racist, place)

[Mac15]

Originally Posted by Perfect Stranger

Hawai'ians are also far away. Does that mean they can't call themselves American?

Hawaiians are not on the otherside of the world i.e 8,000 miles away and actually speak English.

[nei]

Originally Posted by Mac15

Hawaiians are not on the otherside of the world i.e 8,000 miles away and actually speak English.

Everyday language of many locals is Hawaiin Pidgin. Similar to English but would be very hard to understand:

Hawaiian Pidgin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[nei]

Originally Posted by Gentoo

Puerto Ricans are definitely of a Latin American culture. Here on the west coast they are always misidentified as Mexicans, much to their dismay.

That's kinda funny, as until maybe a decade or two ago, all Hispanics were assumed to be Puerto Rican in the Northeast.

[nei]

Originally Posted by Mac15

We classify a person as British if they are born inside the United Kingdom on the day of their birth.Its not about your heritage.

Thats why I can't fathom why someone from Puerto Rico who was not born in America is American.

I don't think anyone did, I said Puerto Ricans (or from any other country) who's lived here for many decades would be considered American. Someone could have moved here when he was 6, and be indistinguishable or nearly so from native-born Americans (I've met some).

Also, the reason I keep disagreeing (in that other thread) with you so strongly is you were arguing over who would be considered American when you're not American. If you were American, I would have disagreed but respected your opinion as your view.

[Mac15]

It doesn't really matter if I am American. It is the same worldwide.
I classify nationality by birthplace.

My uncle has been living in Canada for 40 years but he is always certainly NOT Canadian!!

[theunbrainwashed]

Originally Posted by Mac15

It doesn't really matter if I am American. It is the same worldwide.
I classify nationality by birthplace.

My uncle has been living in Canada for 40 years but he is always certainly NOT Canadian!!

Australia's current PM was born in Britain but lived.most of his life and almost all his youth in Australia. He has an Australian accent, native born Australians consider him Australia. By the way, Puerto Rico is closer to the mainland than Hawaii is. There are native Hawaiians that don't speak English as their primary language. Are they American?

[Gentoo]

Originally Posted by nei

That's kinda funny, as until maybe a decade or two ago, all Hispanics were assumed to be Puerto Rican in the Northeast.

Oh I know. My Mexican friends go back east and they tell me that everyone calls them Puerto Rican.

[Gentoo]

Originally Posted by Mac15

It doesn't really matter if I am American. It is the same worldwide.
I classify nationality by birthplace.

My uncle has been living in Canada for 40 years but he is always certainly NOT Canadian!!

What nei is trying to tell you is, it doesn't work that way IN THIS country.

[Richard1098]

Originally Posted by theunbrainwashed

Australia's current PM was born in Britain but lived.most of his life and almost all his youth in Australia. He has an Australian accent, native born Australians consider him Australia. By the way, Puerto Rico is closer to the mainland than Hawaii is. There are native Hawaiians that don't speak English as their primary language. Are they American?

Yep, being "Australian" is really about having a certain mindset and a sense of loyalty to Australia. In addition to Tony Abbott (we occasionally label him a pom if he's done something too "out there" for Australian sensitivities ) the current employment minister is German born, and the finance minister is Belgian by birth. One of our early prime ministers was born in Chile of German background, and one influential politician of the late 1800s and early 1900s was born in the US, but at times claimed to be Canadian .

I guess we're a pretty accepting place.

[Mac15]

I will only consider them American if they move at like 5, any older and they are not.