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View Poll Results: Do you prefer downtowns with European architecture or those resembling American ones with skyscraper
European downtowns (and architecture) 115 76.16%
Americanized downtowns (with skyscrapers) 36 23.84%
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Old 09-03-2016, 10:16 AM
 
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Eastern cities in Canada and the U.S. are older and were laid out Europe-style. So Boston, NYC, Philadelphia, Montreal, Toronto, etc. have suburban sprawl, but they also have quite dense city cores with excellent public transit.

The worse sprawl is out west. Highrises are uncommon, there are many one-storey houses, streets are wide, and the sprawl is really amazing. The perception of space is completely different... no one has to consider making the most of limited space, they have all the room to build that they want. Completely different mentality towards building out.

I'd dispute how dense South American cities are. Mexico City sprawls incredibly, as do many other Latin American cities.
Latin America is a mixed bag
Some European type cities, some North American type places.
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Old 09-03-2016, 10:23 AM
 
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Then, maybe Europe-East Asia booming border town has the right mix (yes, there is such border). Here's a small town you've probably never heard of, Manzhouli China bordering with Russia.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4-xREq7-sA
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Old 09-03-2016, 12:51 PM
 
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Here's a video from a new district being built in Helsinki. I'd like a bit more ambition, but I'll guess it will be a nice district:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSl3N_sekdk
Yep, I'd expect "more ambitions" there kinda too...
It's even less colorful than Russian cities; I was surprised to see the kind of new architecture in Russian cities that is kinda different; sometimes I like these experiments, sometimes I don't, but it's sure different and really strive for color ( in the northern cities in particular.)

( Sorry if something from older architecture got there...)

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/vartu...1_original.jpg

http://1tmn.ru/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/png050213.jpg

http://ru3.anyfad.com/items/t1@ea638...roda-Omska.jpg

http://static.ngs.ru/news/preview/49...42cf0a_900.jpg

http://www.mozarina.com/images/eka.jpg

http://ru.fishki.net/picsw/042013/16.../omsk-0006.jpg

http://riarealty.ru/images/40602/45/406024508.jpg

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/augis...3_original.jpg

http://www.udikov.ru/wp-content/uplo...11/Saransk.jpg

They even experiment with good ole Commi blocks ( they can't live without them - that's understood))

http://vnovostroe.ru/files/vnovostro...508cbb2826.jpg

http://72new.ru/sites/default/files/...image/21_0.jpg

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Old 09-03-2016, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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Speaking of homes and houses, what are your thoughts on these "post-modern" type of house that are newly built in western Sydney?

https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-33....2!8i6656?hl=en
Depressing.
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these are kinda neat looking, IMO

https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-33....2!8i6656?hl=en
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Old 09-03-2016, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Do not like. Too crowded and austere. They look like an industrial park, like storage lockers, like shipping containers... They won't look so barracks-like once the trees grow and hide them, but they aren't even a nice minimalist design IMO... too chunky, a patchwork of boxes in various shades of beige. Like Stalinesque public housing.
Yeah, these post-modern homes may not look the greatest for non-Australians. But I like them because they are a deviation from the standard houses in this country. They are an anomaly, so to say, and may appear unique. Because our homes generally look like this:

Typical modern homes: https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-33....2!8i6656?hl=en

Post 1960s wood houses (ew): https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-33....2!8i6656?hl=en

Federation architectural homes and Californian bungalows from the early 1900s (not bad): https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-33....2!8i6656?hl=en and their terraced variants - https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-33....2!8i6656?hl=en

Classic terraces (one of my favourites): https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-33....2!8i6656?hl=en

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They're nice too. They look futuristic in contrast to others. And they're from the same suburb (Pemulwuy) that had these "post-modern" houses that I linked earlier. That suburb is versatile with its contemporary architecture, btw.
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Old 09-03-2016, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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US, CANADA, AUSTRALIA, NEW ZEALAND, SOUTH AFRICA.


EUROPE
The European photo doesn't look that clear. And it looks like it can be a CBD area of any city in the world, really.

Oh, and it's not fair to compare a suburban area to a CBD. Because we can also do this:

Germany:


Australia:
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Old 09-04-2016, 03:43 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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UK cities are dense like European cities... No need to attack me for making a mistake!
American cities also have dense populations, what is being discussed here is what downtown (citry centres) look like and most UK Cities have city centres with a lot of historic buildings and are generally not that high rise.








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Old 09-04-2016, 03:51 AM
 
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The European photo doesn't look that clear. And it looks like it can be a CBD area of any city in the world, really.

Oh, and it's not fair to compare a suburban area to a CBD. Because we can also do this:
There is lots of suburban sprawl in most European countries as well. Maybe not as extreme as in New World countries due to a higher population density, but Europe is far from an "urban utopia". Lots of suburbs, many also car-dependent.

As for downtowns or city centers, I prefer those who combine both, Old and New World. For example London or Frankfurt. Lots of skyscrapers, but also many historic buildings.
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Old 09-04-2016, 05:39 AM
 
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American cities also have dense populations, what is being discussed here is what downtown (citry centres) look like and most UK Cities have city centres with a lot of historic buildings and are generally not that high rise.


hahahaha other than NYC and Philadelphia

Most American cities are mage-suburban sprawls that go on and on for miles and miles and miles.

Trust me I lived in America 9 years and in most of the US "YOU NEED A CAR!"

I had an Austrian friend go visit me in San Diego and he was saying, it didn't feel like a city because you need a car to go anywhere and it's all so spread out it just looks like very dense countryside!

Australia is also like that, and Canada.

I don't know why the negation

Most cities on the countries aforementioned are pretty suburban and spread out!

In most European cities you can clearly go anywhere in the city with subway, tram, bus and even the suburbs which are SECONDARY to the city are pretty connected to the central city (not the other way around like in US/Can/Aus) where the suburbs are the epicenter and the city is a ghost town population wise filled with office towers and public transportation is nowhere to be found!

Most american downtowns have been derelict epicenters of poverty, people of color white americans run away from living in terrible conditions in terribly run down areas while everything and everyone is in the suburbs where a car is a need.

Its only recently that Americans have gotten sick of the suburbs and downtowns seem to be blooming. (but once again they are doing it wrong because downtowns are becoming exclusively for the rich) unlike European cities that have diverse downtowns with all sorts of social classes and communities.

About Canada.... Toronto is pretty suburban!! I don't know why canadians claim it's not.

And cities like Perth, Brisbane, Adelaide are pretty much suburbs, sydney a bit less but still pretty suburban.

JUST ACCEPT IT.... CANADA, USA, AUSTRALIAN CITIES ARE CITIES FOR CARS, NOT PEDESTRIANS.
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