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Old 12-13-2015, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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I thought you were all for freedom of religion...
Islam is not a religion.
In a ideal world religion should never have founded.

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Old 12-14-2015, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Fortaleza, Northeast of Brazil
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Albania, Azerbaijan, and Turkey are the only countries in the world where Muslims are more than 51% of the population and there are no laws punishing apostasy from Islam AND no laws punishing gays for their private sexual activity.
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Old 12-14-2015, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Fortaleza, Northeast of Brazil
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And Mali and Niger...

I was really not paying attention to the map...

So, it's actually Albania, Azerbaijan, Turkey, Mali and Niger...
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Old 12-14-2015, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Fortaleza, Northeast of Brazil
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Five Muslim-majority countries with no punishment for apostasy from Islam and no punishment for private sexual activity of gays...

That's a start... Let's hope in the future that number grows...
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Old 12-14-2015, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Somewhere in Southern Italy
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that's a bold statement...

but OK, it's your point of view...
Don't give him credit. He modifies truth to make it look the ways he wants. This is the same user who thinks that Eastern Ukraine isn't part of Europe when it's more than a thousand kilometres west of the Urals

You are doing a great job clearing misconceptions by the way
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Old 12-14-2015, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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Bangledesh, Chad and a few smaller African countries are also there. I think some of the smaller nation is mostly because
1. They don't care they have bigger issues
2. The number of gays may not be even in the thousands.
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Old 12-15-2015, 05:15 AM
 
Location: Fortaleza, Northeast of Brazil
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Bangledesh, Chad and a few smaller African countries are also there. I think some of the smaller nation is mostly because
1. They don't care they have bigger issues
2. The number of gays may not be even in the thousands.
Bangladesh does punish gays. Section 377.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Bangladesh


But Bangladesh doesn't punish apostasy from Islam.
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Old 12-15-2015, 05:51 AM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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Does that mean that Greece is also not part of the Western World?

That would be ironic, considering that Greece is the birth place of democracy and rational philosophy, and Greek was the language used by early Christians to write the Gospels...
Eastern Mediterranean.

Modern Greece was grafted (badly) into the western world by the Europeans, mainly France and Britain, in the early 1800s as the Ottoman Empire, a successor to the Romans in the east, declined and weakened.

This crap that Greece is the birthplace of democracy and so forth is part of the political propaganda of the 1800s in countries like France and the US, for various reasons. Among other things, it sounds cute and helps keep Greece, whose territory is highly strategic, in the western military and political fold.

The "fault line" between east and west in the Euro-Mediterranean theater has long been the so-called Balkans (Illyricum), but exactly where that fault line lies has shifted over time, even in the past 25 years or so.

And what do the Gospels have anything to do with it? Again, an eastern Mediterranean phenomenon that the western Europeans did a pretty good job of screwing up, including crappy translations, among other things, then spitting out.

Good Luck!

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Old 12-15-2015, 05:57 AM
 
Location: Fortaleza, Northeast of Brazil
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Eastern Mediterranean.

Modern Greece was grafted (badly) into the western world by the Europeans, mainly France and Britain, in the early 1800s as the Ottoman Empire, a successor to the Romans in the east, declined and weakened.

This crap that Greece is the birthplace of democracy and so forth is part of the political propaganda of the 1800s in countries like France and the US, for various reasons. Among other things, it sounds cute and helps keep Greece, whose territory is highly strategic, in the western military and political fold.

The "fault line" between east and west in the Euro-Mediterranean theater has long been the so-called Balkans (Illyricum), but exactly where that fault line lies has shifted over time, even in the past 25 years or so.

And what do the Gospels have anything to do with it? Again, an eastern Mediterranean phenomenon that the western Europeans did a pretty good job of screwing up, including crappy translations, among other things.

Good Luck!

Democracy and rational philosophy were born in Ancient Greece, FOR SURE. Any historian knows that.

Rational philosophy is behind Renaissance and Illuminism that shaped the "Western World"

The idea of democracy is behind the French Revolution, and is one of the main foundations of the political systems of the "Western World".

And since the "Western World" is mostly Christian, and the Gospels are the first written documents of the Christian faith, then it's interesting to notice those documents were originally written in the language of Greece (Greek language).

Greece is the "grandmother" of the "Western World", for sure.
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Old 12-15-2015, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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Islam is not a religion.
In a ideal world religion should never have founded.
Funny thing is many of the modern things founded in the world wouldn't be commonplace if it wasn't for religion. Your username probably wouldn't exist if it wasn't for religion and many of the stuff you have today would still be back in China or India if it wasn't for the fact that a large region shared the same religion hint*Mohammed is a Prophet in their religion. evolved into enhance trading routes causing Muslim Philosophers from around the world to meet in Baghdad and an almost renaissance of forward thinking lead to the inventions of things that Europe later capitalized on including some methods of advanced math first borrowed from the Greeks and Romans then enhanced... Also Arabic Numerals like 1,0,2,5,7 which were originally from India. Look up things like The Alhambra and Baghdad's Golden Age, you may actually learn that just tone of this religion because of it's size lead to scientists who never would have met each other had they all kept their original religion. You may not like Islam but ignoring it's historical benefits to the world, you might as weel change your username because your comment would be contradicting itself.
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