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Old 02-09-2016, 05:08 PM
 
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I guess its okay to use Chinaman then.
Don't pseudobump your own topic this was destined to be a one page thread with probably a second page of irrelevant drivvle
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Old 02-09-2016, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in Southern Italy
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Didn't even know that could be used as an insult. Calling someone Cinese or Uomo Cinese isn't seen as offensive here in Italy. The fact that English has so many pejorative terms (in comparison to Italian which has just two which are negro for Africans and crucco for Germans) for the various ethnicities speaks volumes about how racist and xenophobes English speaking countries were/are.
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Old 02-09-2016, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Taipei
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Chinaman was used as a racial pejorative in the past.
Basically this. Same goes with "Japs", which is very offensive to Japanese people, even though similar demonyms such as Swedes, Finns, Danes, Poles are all still very commonly used.

It's like the N word. The word derived from Spanish/Portuguese, simply meant "black" in the past, but it's now completely off-limits.

Just don't use the word and say 'Chinese' instead. It's not too much to ask, is it?
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Old 02-09-2016, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Didn't even know that could be used as an insult. Calling someone Cinese or Uomo Cinese isn't seen as offensive here in Italy. The fact that English has so many pejorative terms (in comparison to Italian which has just two which are negro for Africans and crucco for Germans) for the various ethnicities speaks volumes about how racist and xenophobes English speaking countries were/are.
I thought anglos are or were far less xenophobic or racist than the rest of us? At least that is what I have always been told!
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Old 02-09-2016, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Canada
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I had a Jewish woman go nuts on me for using the word "jew". I have heard a lot of people use it, I honestly didn't realize some Jewish folks found it offensive to be called jew.
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Old 02-09-2016, 08:03 PM
 
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Everything has its historical context.

In Japanese, calling Chinese man 'China-jin" is offensive too, and the correct form is Chuugoku-jin. The former derived from some European language, and the latter derived from Chinese.
Not China-jin but Sina-jin (支那人). This is why sina.com were criticized before.

BTW, Xuanzang
(Chinese: 玄奘; Wade–Giles: Hsüan-tsang; c. 602 – 664), born Chen Hui or Chen Yi (Chen I), was a Chinese Buddhist monk, scholar, traveller, and translator who described the interaction between China and India in the early Tang dynasty. Born in what is now Henan province around 602, from boyhood he took to reading religious books, including the Chinese classics and the writings of ancient sages.
As far as I know, he is the best foreign student in history. And how did he introduce himself in foreign countries? The answer is 支那僧.

OK. You may criticize Xuanzang now
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Old 02-10-2016, 01:38 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Baggage.
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Old 02-10-2016, 12:53 PM
 
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Chinaman is sort of calling china men useless, ore servants if you think of it in the aspect that china is used for food, and servants cook food, so I guess chinaman is an offeensive term. All the other -men are more formal, and used to describe the nationality.
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Old 02-10-2016, 03:55 PM
 
Location: downtown
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Because the last 4 you mentioned are White
They live in white communities...
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Old 02-10-2016, 04:28 PM
 
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Don't pseudobump your own topic this was destined to be a one page thread with probably a second page of irrelevant drivvle

One of the few times you've been right !
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